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Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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post #128

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That doesn’t matter for the question of whether users will fall back to visiting other subreddits.

So why did you bring it up?

I brought up the percentage of subreddits, which does matter, because it determines how many subreddits remain to fall back to. The activity level of the subreddits who are blacking out, however, doesn’t matter for that, and it was pb7 who brought that up, not me.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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I've also been using PowerDeleteSuite[0] to delete all submissions and comments, as deleting your account will not delete posts, just change the user to [deleted]. [0] https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/

I get that you want to protest but I don’t like the idea of destroying information permanently that might not be available elsewhere, it’s really frustrating when you find a comment that seemed to give you the solution to the problem exact problem you have but it got deleted. Is there a less destructive way to do this?

I just deleted my account of 9+ years with a good number of comments.

The reason is simple: I don't know of any other way for me as a user to actually do anything against Reddit, aside from not using it. But I hate the idea of a company doing a successful rug-pull while profiting off my thoughts and ideas. Sure, it's a bummer that the info is lost - but I feel that every small bit of success they have now will increase the likelihood of something like this happening again in the future.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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post #78

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You are writing this using the best Reddit replacement. If HN had a subforum feature and an ability to embed pictures or videos in posts, or some kind of markdown light syntax, Reddit usage would die for me.

But how would HN avoid creating its own /r/all ?

HN is /r/all.

If not in the content-mix sense, then in the sense that there is one and only one homepage, and that it's everything posted to the site.

Though in truth: there are some alternate views. "Pool", "Invited", and "Best" are subsets of submissions. You can also do a blank search on Algolia and set a time window to view the best items of the past day, week, month, year, or other arbitrary interval.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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48 hours will not even ding reddit. Do it for a month and it will count, assuming reddit doesn't simply re-enable the subreddits. But obviously the mods here are walking a fine line between pissing off their users and getting reddit to bend over. With camarades.com we had a week long outage because of a fire in EV1's DC which then caused the fire marshal to shut everything down for a week (I don't blame them, but tha…

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This second paragraph is extremely unhinged. I would suggest reevaluating beliefs here.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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post #187

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Twitter has proven that not even that would matter. Network effects are too powerful. People use Reddit therefore people will use Reddit. Once a company has a large enough network effect they can do almost anything and people won’t leave. I’ve come to believe that it’s the most powerful form of lock in.

I actually did quit Twitter and nothing will be able to make me go back there. Principles and all that. But I suspect that the fraction of people that followed through on their statement that they would leave Twitter is super small. I also haven't gone anywhere else and I feel much the better for it.

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Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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post #67

Why isn't there a reddit clone ready to host all those communities under a different economic model (such as donations)?

Existing reddit clones are unfortunately run by political outcasts from both extremes. So they tend to not be as open for the average user.

Plus, even just looking at Mastodon/ActivityPub activity, it's dropped back down to nearly half of what it was in January at the peak of the Twitter exodus.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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They claim it's because moderation tools are better on 3rd party apps, the truth is that they just don't want to see ads.

Most moderators overwhelmingly rely on the utility function you get in 3rd party apps that isn't currently in the official app, so I genuinely believe this is one aspect of the protest. I could be wrong, but I genuinely can't see a situation where this amount of action is purely around seeing ads. Pretty unanimously, 3rd party app developers have said they'd happily show Reddit's ads in their feed, but Reddit never c…

What apps are they using for moderation? It's not Apollo.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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post #23

I wish subreddits going dark would provide some alternative platform, already seeded with a sample of their content. I’m unfamiliar with most of these subreddits and in some cases I’m curious what they’re about. As a bonus, this could be an organic attempt at moving to a different place.

I mean in theory each subreddit could be a website of its own, but Reddit works for two reasons; one, it amalgates all of these various communities into one platform, look and feel, and two, they pay for it. Lemmy is pushed as an alternative, but it has two issues; one, it's decentralized, so users have to scout on the internet to find servers to find communities on, and two, there's no monetization so whoever hosts a server will have to pay out of pocket; that cannot scale to the scale of Reddit, neither in terms of server requirements or cost, unless the owner finds a source of income from the service. Reflected sounds of underground spirits, basically.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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I tallied (roughly) the number of subscriber accounts, across all these reddits. It's around 1 billion. Obviously, it's not conservative as many will have subscribed to multiple. But, I see MAU (monthly active users) is about 1b. So, this is huge. EDIT: Seems the source for MAU I found was way high, making this potentially even bigger. Every other source I've found is 400-500m range for MAU on reddit (as another poin…

I did wonder, are these all subreddits or just the ones announcing they will be going dark? It does seem like a lot of ones will be turning off.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Because that’s how Reddit is designed, and that’s how forums worked before Reddit. If you don’t like the way a subreddit is run then you can make another one, and if you are sufficiently better then people will switch. Reddit isn’t stack exchange. It’s more like running an open source project. The problem is that there’s this hostile corporation that sometimes tries to kill their own product every few years overseein…

> If you don’t like the way a subreddit is run then you can make another one, and if you are sufficiently better then people will switch That's much easier said than done - say you don't like the moderation or content of /r/gaming, how are you going to spread the word about your new subreddit? It won't have as good a name as /r/gaming, it's not a default sub so it's more difficult to find, and you might find that men…

> How can Reddit have the concept of default subreddits yet allow them to be run by random, unvetted people? For me being default includes some kind of guarantee of quality and approval by Reddit, yet most of these default subreddits are going dark!

I think that over time the concept of a default subreddit has been imbued with a significance that it didn't originally have. Basic UI design dictates that if someone shows up at the front page of your link aggregator website they should see some links, so they had to show some subreddits even before the user did anything. I don't think it was originally meant to imply any kind of guarantee or quality or approval by Reddit. But for various reasons, mostly to do with the huge growth in traffic to the Reddit front page (as well as some political meddling by the admins), that is now the impression a lot of people have.

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