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Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

seydor wrote: post #256
drcode wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing looks dumber than wearing airPod earbuds, but almost everyone seems to have them

What other choice do they have? they literally removed the headphone jack to force people to buy them

Wires suck though, and that’s coming from a person with a few MacBook Pro MSRPs worth headphone collection.

AirPods Pro are an amazing product and it’s not dorky at all, never was.

The original AirPods with long stick were kinda dorky and not that great (no isolation)

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by NovaDudely »

This sounds similar to the talk of somewhat that just got Sherlocked.

There are two ways you can go about this. Think of the iPhone release, you can be Nokia/Microsoft and stubbornly continue thinking you have first mover advantage. Or be like Google with Android, realize they have just seen the future and pivot the project in that direction.

Zuck may be taking the Nokia route.

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Post by idle_zealot »

veidr wrote: post #151
unobatbayar wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meta Quest 3 really looks like it's made by Xiaomi, matches their entire theme and price range. What made you buy it?

Well, I am just really interested in the idea of taking a spatial computer headset device around with me, and doing work (writing software, so think VS Code/JetBrains/Xcode) in a large spatial environment instead of a laptop with a single small screen. I did know that the Quest Pro would not live up to that task (and it doesn't), but I wanted to see how close you could get today for $1500 (now, $1000). I also do boxi…

> The new Apple gizmo looks way better for programming and work like that

Based on Apple's track record, they're going to disallow development on the Vision like they do for all iOS/iPad devices.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by 14 »

kumarvvr wrote: post #244

" By contrast, every demo that they showed was a person sitting on a couch by themself." Wait, I thought an Oculus does the same thing too. Its a blindfold on your face, and it doesnt matter if they are alone or in a crowd. Mark has got to be terrified. The power of Apple is the tight and efficient integration of hardware and software. Regarding battery power, I woukd not rule out versions that stream the video and o…

No need to panic the oculus is doing well and is very easy to chat and connect with friends and new people. And with the quest 3 there is complete pass through so finding a controller should be easy even though I can tell you it already is.

I’m not a Zuck fanboy but I have enjoyed the quest 2 thoroughly and plan to get the 3 when it releases.

I do think the Apple vision pro looks amazing but the second I heard the price it was laughable. Obviously I am not the target audience. I’m not sure who is to be honest.

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Post by Fezzik »

juunpp wrote: post #270
kumarvvr wrote: post #244

" By contrast, every demo that they showed was a person sitting on a couch by themself." Wait, I thought an Oculus does the same thing too. Its a blindfold on your face, and it doesnt matter if they are alone or in a crowd. Mark has got to be terrified. The power of Apple is the tight and efficient integration of hardware and software. Regarding battery power, I woukd not rule out versions that stream the video and o…

The $3500 price tag and closed ecosystem is self-sabotaging, so MZ doesn't need to be worried at all. Carmack's vision was a cheap device that could hit mass market, and that's where the real game still is. Also, games.

The same was said of the iPad and Apple Watch… this may be their big miss, but based on the reviews I’ll keep betting on Apple.

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Post by isoprophlex »

baby wrote: post #260
ctvo wrote: post #25

This sounded weak to me. Apple is making an integrated headset: their own lenses, processor, ..., down to the operating system. The Quest uses an Android based operating system and a lot of off the shelf components. We've seen this story before and it hasn't ended well for the folks in Mark's position. A personal device like these headsets needs to be delightful . It has to be responsive. It has to have the little to…

> The Quest uses an Android based operating system and a lot of off the shelf components. > We've seen this story before and it hasn't ended well for the folks in Mark's position. market share of android vs iOS in 2023: > Android 71.63 > iOS 27.71

71.63%, but made up of an inordinate amount of outright cheap and/or high volume/low margin shitphones that last 1-1.5 years before self-destructing under the burden of their own pre-loaded bloat and adware.

That's not business, that's a struggle for survival.

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Post by NBJack »

kumarvvr wrote: post #244

" By contrast, every demo that they showed was a person sitting on a couch by themself." Wait, I thought an Oculus does the same thing too. Its a blindfold on your face, and it doesnt matter if they are alone or in a crowd. Mark has got to be terrified. The power of Apple is the tight and efficient integration of hardware and software. Regarding battery power, I woukd not rule out versions that stream the video and o…

Pretty sure Mark was actually counting on it. It doesn't make it a good idea, but Apple tends to set the bar for status symbols. Smartphones existed before the iPhone. PC laptops existed before MacBooks. Portable digital music players existed before iPods.

While not always successful, they actually add legitimacy to many of the markets they get into. Time will tell if it happens here; I'm not holding my breath.

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Post by wahahah »

seydor wrote: post #286
wahahah wrote: post #280

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So I can drink my coffee, use my keyboard, or eat my popcorn.

assuming that handtracking doesnt confuse you eating popcorn with pinching gesture. But anyway i hope your headset doesnt smell of popcorn and coffee afterwards

They showed that exact activity a couple times, fwiw, and my headphones don't retain smell so I don't imagine the set will.

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

labrador wrote: post #133
JKCalhoun wrote: post #121

> “By contrast, every demo that they showed was a person sitting on a couch by themself,” he said of Apple’s WWDC keynote earlier this week. Odd thing for him to say since he is describing the strange solitariness of all VR.

> strange solitariness of all VR The whole pitch of the Metaverse seemed to be "We'll all live in a virtual world and have great fun meeting and interacting with each other."

… while sitting with those interaction-coffins on our heads? How can anyone promote a box of a VR helmet and speak about “social”
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