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Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by Pufferbo »

sureglymop wrote: post #240
Pufferbo wrote: post #96

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This is how I feel as well. People always say that Mastodon will never replace Twitter because it’s either a) too hard to sign up for, b) no enough people on using it. However, since it’s federated, I feel the easier to find people and posts that are more akin to my interests on there. I just joined a midsized software dev focused instance and followed a few tags for my hobbies and my experience is great. It almost f…

Out of curiosity, what instance? Sounds nice.

Fosstodon: https://fosstodon.org/about

They mainly focus around open source software. Admins are great, and the server is fast and reliable.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by SauciestGNU »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #228
mjr00 wrote: post #176

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> But I'd just add there is a pretty major difference between "temporarily" and "permanently". Major kudos to r/ProgrammerHumor and other subs that are doing it right - saying they will be shutting down indefinitely unless Reddit changes their stance. A permanent closure of a popular sub is 100% going to lead to Reddit declaring the sub abandoned, replacing the mod team, and reopening. Has happened many times before.…

> Has happened many times before. Do you have examples, specifically when a subreddit went dark in protest and Reddit replaced the mods?

I recall one popular but controversial subreddit's founder (think it was KotakuInAction) shut down the subreddit because he didn't like what it had become, and the admins demodded him and gave the sub to its other mods.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by shitlord »

snapcaster wrote: post #47
km3r wrote: post #35

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What do you mean? I know nothing about lemmy but from the posted link it doesn't appear communist

One of the developers actually marketed Lemmy as "communist-developed": https://www.reddit.com/r/socialistprogrammers/comments/mzqv3...

There's nothing wrong with that, per se. The larger issue preventing widespread adoption is that the authors really don't want you to modify/customize the software in certain ways. The slur filter was hard coded and unmodifiable for a long time. There was a ton of drama around that, all because the developers don't like right wingers. https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/hvz2l9/...

Lemmy is a good alternative for certain subreddits who want their own website. It's not a replacement for the entire reddit platform though, and I don't think any of the reddit alternatives really come close in that regard.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by riku_iki »

makeitdouble wrote: post #268
riku_iki wrote: post #222

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> yes the reaction seems heavily positive. toxic vocal minority often drives narrative. That's why anonymous polls are important.

> toxic vocal minority hmm...It wouldn't be controversial to say that r/ProgrammingHumor is heavily centered on this concept. And I mean that as a participant in it for I don't know how long.

> It wouldn't be controversial to say that r/ProgrammingHumor is heavily centered on this concept

humor is not necessary toxic, and toxicity can have many different levels, making toxic jokes is one level, distort facts, aggressively attack, flood, moderate unwelcomed opinions is another level.

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Post by notwhereyouare »

riku_iki wrote: post #275
tomrod wrote: post #246

Reading the headlines, I'm in Apollo's camp. But holy moly, this guy does himself no favors with extremely hard to follow comms where he is trying to make a deal: https://gist.github.com/christianselig/fda7e8bc5a25aec9824f9... (This is Apollo's lead dev). Again, I'm not an apologist for Reddit -- their pricing is absurd -- my point is simply this drama seems expounded because of frankly bad comms. EDIT: its also nuts…

so, how it could happen that he recorded it without consent of other party?

Canada is a single party consent country. He was the one who needed to consent to his recording

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Post by gaganyaan »

Solvency wrote: post #123
awesome_dude wrote: post #73

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>Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Yes - it's all the sites that people link to on reddit :-P For the record, there's something happening to all the big Social Media sites over the last few years IRC/Freenode - dead, replaced by Libera, but not nearly as vibrant as its heyday Twitter - dying, replaced by Mastodon, Bluesky, and Instagram, none of them really capture the magic that was…

Why does everyone forget Discourse? It's quietly enabling all of the best topic/product/niche-specific commmunities out there. https://discourse.mcneel.com as an example is a thriving treasure trove for CAD/Nurbs/product modelers/architects/etc.

I was just thinking today how I'd like to forget about Discourse. They overrode fucking ctrl+f to redirect it to their shitty search, and if you bother to activate an actually useful search tool like the one that comes in your browser, you can just get fucked. They use heavy amounts of javascript to load only a few comments in the DOM at a time so you can't find a damn thing.

Terrible, terrible system that should've already been replaced by static html + htmx.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by SuperShibe »

somsak2 wrote: post #239
Macha wrote: post #199

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There are some subreddits which are more seperate from the mod team (How much does it really matter who runs r/aww? It can run on inertia for a very long time, for sure), and where a very small contributing group can provide content to a much wider and more casual reading group. But then there's some where the mods and other highly active users are a more active part in making it what it is. Think subs with weekly bo…

Reddit doesn't care if the niches leave, they don't drive $ anyway

Actually, they do. A Reddit only consisting of r/AskReddit, r/aww, r/pics and r/tifu provides less value than just using Instagram/Twitter.

Most of the casual users I know use Reddit for a few small meme subreddits and topics that are too small for their main-platforms. If those are down, Reddit is dead to them.

(Of course Reddit could try to send their staff each down a different rabbit hole to fit them into the communities. This would be fucking hilarious. I hope this doesn't happen but if it happens, I'll have my popcorn ready.)

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Post by jonathankoren »

mjr00 wrote: post #232
jonathankoren wrote: post #191

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Putting aside the dubious methodology behind that metric, I’d like to point out that’s precisely the wrong metric to be paying attention to. You need to look at the traffic and retention numbers of the power users, and better yet the critical users in the social graph. Power user traffic has declined 25% since Elon. The reason why this number is more important than overall user growth, is because social networks don’…

Twitter exists because of celebrities, politicians, journalists, musicians, etc. And those users have largely not migrated to Mastodon. Maybe you could argue they're promoting more on Tiktok now, but that's a bit of a different platform. BLACKPINK and Taylor Swift both tweeted today. So did Barack Obama, and Stephen Curry. And CNN, ABC News, CBS News, and Fox News are all constantly updating their Twitter feeds. Mean…

You seem to be confused. It doesn’t matter if Mastodon is going to replace Twitter. What matters is that Twitter is dead. Then I laid out why the collapse has already started. This shouldn’t be controversial. Twitter has been losing users for years now.

Celebrities aren’t trendsetters. They’re laggards. To use the hockey metaphor, they always skate to the puck, not where it is going. Case in point: Every band was on MySpace until well after the collapse began.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by riku_iki »

notwhereyouare wrote: post #285
riku_iki wrote: post #275

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so, how it could happen that he recorded it without consent of other party?

Canada is a single party consent country. He was the one who needed to consent to his recording

Yes, you are right. But he is also reddit customer, uses reddit api and legally obligated to follow terms and conditions, and they have confidentiality clause about communication there: https://www.reddit.com/wiki/api-terms/

I guess they can now sue him and request to pay damages, which likely will be large.

Also, according to random article in internet, California law requires him to ask consent too:

Generally, if both parties are within the same state, the state law will apply. When one party is in California and the other one is outside the state, the two-party consent rule applies to actors outside of California, if they are communicating with people in California who have not given consent. Essentially, California protects those in the state from being recorded without their consent even where the out-of-state actor is in a state which permits “one party consent.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by jakecopp »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #17

HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

> Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet?

Yes we do! It's called Lemmy - it's built on ActivityPub, is Mastodon compatible, and people actually use it!

https://lemmy.ml/post/1147770

Knowing HN users, I don't know why Lemmy hasn't been all over the front page. It works brilliantly.

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