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Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by drain »

627467 wrote: post #184

Up until not long ago there would be plenty of post here saying how Google is useless and how appending `site:reddit.com` to any query was the only way to get decent results. This thread is all about how bad reddit is, as if their content has disappeared. They don't need defense but I'm amazed at how volatile people's opinions are.

At least part of the difference is that Reddit can be a useful forum for technical troubleshooting of apps / programs. But the dissent in the thread is in reference to it as a social media platform - I think.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by mjr00 »

jonathankoren wrote: post #191
willcipriano wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Posted: 6:00 PM Jun 6, 2023 > 107.7M Views You sure about that? https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1666203439146172419

Putting aside the dubious methodology behind that metric, I’d like to point out that’s precisely the wrong metric to be paying attention to. You need to look at the traffic and retention numbers of the power users, and better yet the critical users in the social graph. Power user traffic has declined 25% since Elon. The reason why this number is more important than overall user growth, is because social networks don’…

Twitter exists because of celebrities, politicians, journalists, musicians, etc. And those users have largely not migrated to Mastodon. Maybe you could argue they're promoting more on Tiktok now, but that's a bit of a different platform.

BLACKPINK and Taylor Swift both tweeted today. So did Barack Obama, and Stephen Curry. And CNN, ABC News, CBS News, and Fox News are all constantly updating their Twitter feeds.

Meanwhile the big Mastodon draw is... Kathy Griffin? And her last Mastodon toot was... March 31. Guess she got bored of only getting 100 likes per post.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by somsak2 »

diydsp wrote: post #206
mjr00 wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I'd just add there is a pretty major difference between "temporarily" and "permanently". Major kudos to r/ProgrammerHumor and other subs that are doing it right - saying they will be shutting down indefinitely unless Reddit changes their stance. A permanent closure of a popular sub is 100% going to lead to Reddit declaring the sub abandoned, replacing the mod team, and reopening. Has happened many times before.…

> replacing the mod team, That's like immigrant jobs: You can take them away but there aren't hoards of passionate volunteers chomping at the bit to replace them.

Reddit can pay mods, just like every other social network does. Not rocket science, and if they did it just for the top ones, wouldn't cost that much.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by somsak2 »

DeepPhilosopher wrote: post #104
DiabloD3 wrote: post #17

HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

"Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet?" Yes. It's called Lemmy. https://join-lemmy.org Just found out about it today.

> Popular

> 357 users / month

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by ticoombs »

JauntTrooper wrote: post #114
DeepPhilosopher wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet?" Yes. It's called Lemmy. https://join-lemmy.org Just found out about it today.

Is there no way to browse without signing in?

Join Lemmy is the introduction website to find one of the many instances.

You should be able to view instances without joining. Checkout my instance: https://reddthat.com

Ps. I've disabled email verification for a short period to allow the influx to happen.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by krapp »

mjr00 wrote: post #232
jonathankoren wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Putting aside the dubious methodology behind that metric, I’d like to point out that’s precisely the wrong metric to be paying attention to. You need to look at the traffic and retention numbers of the power users, and better yet the critical users in the social graph. Power user traffic has declined 25% since Elon. The reason why this number is more important than overall user growth, is because social networks don’…

Twitter exists because of celebrities, politicians, journalists, musicians, etc. And those users have largely not migrated to Mastodon. Maybe you could argue they're promoting more on Tiktok now, but that's a bit of a different platform. BLACKPINK and Taylor Swift both tweeted today. So did Barack Obama, and Stephen Curry. And CNN, ABC News, CBS News, and Fox News are all constantly updating their Twitter feeds. Mean…

The big Mastodon draw is getting away from Twitter and its bullshit.

People who are only interested in virality and clicks and drawing as large an audience as possible are welcome to stay away.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by ticoombs »

timothyduong wrote: post #136
DeepPhilosopher wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet?" Yes. It's called Lemmy. https://join-lemmy.org Just found out about it today.

Ah having issues signing into LemmyWorld. Would like to start building content but the sign-in / registration is a little slow...

The UI is getting there. If the username is not long enough it doesn't show anything for example.

Feel free to come join reddthat.com if lemmyWorld doesn't work for you

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by somsak2 »

jdminhbg wrote: post #137
shmatt wrote: post #78

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The mods only power in life is on Reddit. If they give that up they lose everything. Once in a while some crazy stats like 5 mods control 20% of the top 500 subreddits pop up, I’ve never tried to validate but there is definitely a small group with a lot of power among mods Their entire purpose in life is being a Reddit mod, they’re the ones people expect to kill Reddit?

People always say that Reddit depends on these mods for free labor, which is true, but there's a reason that the mods do this free labor. They enjoy the power/responsibility/community/whatever they get from it.

I don't even think it's true. Mods are cheaply replaceable, it's just an expedient dependency right now but not a necessity for them.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by somsak2 »

Macha wrote: post #199
neilv wrote: post #144

I don't practically see how a popular subreddit can shut down. Corporate can just install different mods. The user base mainstreamed a long time ago, and I would be surprised if there was much on-principle meaningful collective action. OTOH, taking away someone's beloved app, hitting them with big usability downgrade... that's not just principle, and they could lose those users.

There are some subreddits which are more seperate from the mod team (How much does it really matter who runs r/aww? It can run on inertia for a very long time, for sure), and where a very small contributing group can provide content to a much wider and more casual reading group. But then there's some where the mods and other highly active users are a more active part in making it what it is. Think subs with weekly bo…

Reddit doesn't care if the niches leave, they don't drive $ anyway

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by sureglymop »

Pufferbo wrote: post #96
sen wrote: post #27

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Not for everybody but it is for a lot of people. Pretty much everyone I followed in my hobbies have switched over and I don’t go back to twitter anymore, and have more content than I can keep up on in Mastadon. I’ve been perfectly happy with it.

This is how I feel as well. People always say that Mastodon will never replace Twitter because it’s either a) too hard to sign up for, b) no enough people on using it. However, since it’s federated, I feel the easier to find people and posts that are more akin to my interests on there. I just joined a midsized software dev focused instance and followed a few tags for my hobbies and my experience is great. It almost f…

Out of curiosity, what instance? Sounds nice.
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