Could seaweed be the 'fastest and least expensive' tool to fight climate change?

Post by lisasays » Thu, Jun 08, 2023, 9:13 PM UTC

londons_explore wrote: post #83

variant wrote: post #65

What does success look like in the climate change fight? Is there a point where victory can ever be declared? Is that a "correct" temperature (what is it) or a CO2 PPM number (what's ideal)? When industry and scientists stop lobbying for money to fight it?

If we bring global CO2 back down to 280 ppm (like it was in the year 1700[1]), then a lot of today's farming methods will have substantially lower yields. Our modern crops need those higher CO2 levels to grow fast[2]. Without other ways to grow more food, people will starve. [1]: https://www.co2levels.org/img/graph_grid.png [2]: https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/images/greenhouse-...

Post by sokoloff » Thu, Jun 08, 2023, 9:18 PM UTC

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #127

dubcanada wrote: post #42

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While I agree, how do you recommend we reduce emissions immediately, which is basically when it needs to happen. It seems like largely people just don't care about the environment on a "general global" scale. There are pockets are people/groups/countries that do. But on average people don't. So that leaves really one solution, which is attempting to reduce the amount of existing emissions to stop the rise to some deg…

> It seems like largely people just don't care about the environment on a "general global" scale. The issue is not really people. The worst emitters are out of reach from us. It’s good to make people more conscious of their environmental impact but what good does it really make when what is saved is a minute of energy production by the average Chinese coal power plant.

Post by oezi » Thu, Jun 08, 2023, 9:24 PM UTC

euroderf wrote: post #104

oezi wrote: post #71

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Looking at the technology trajectories of PV and wind it is pretty clear that within the next 5 to 15 years many countries will start seeing substantial extra electricity being generated by the build out of renewables. Because countries will aim to cover most electricity by renewables and thus overprovision them for dark windless winters, it is likely that there will be massive amounts of energy available during the…

So, how do you apply this to carbon sequestration in seaweed ?

Post by CharlieDigital » Thu, Jun 08, 2023, 9:26 PM UTC

leesec wrote: post #87

nologic01 wrote: post #82

There won't be any ingenious, miracle carbon removal solution and various proposals may even be flirting with ecological disasters of planetary proportions. Anything that expands our footprint in order to mitigate our footprint is a dubious direction. Reminds of an apprentice wizard that panics and invokes a sequence of spells, each one worse than the other. Discussions and thinking around sustainability underestimat…

>There won't be any ingenious, miracle carbon removal solutions OK but I think there will be.

Post by K0balt » Thu, Jun 08, 2023, 9:33 PM UTC

CharlieDigital wrote: post #138

leesec wrote: post #87

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>There won't be any ingenious, miracle carbon removal solutions OK but I think there will be.

In the context of the post you're replying to, that's like believing there will be a miracle pill so you can eat whatever you want, however much you want, drink as much alcohol as you want, and the magic pill will prevent obesity, cancer, heart disease, and liver failure. And even if such a miracle drug did exist, if seems like the better solution is to simply lead a healthier lifestyle to begin with.