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Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

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Post by romseb »

quickthrowman wrote: post #146
DoreenMichele wrote: post #136

I personally try to avoid canned drinks and foods to avoid metal poisoning. I typically buy two liter sodas in plastic bottles and avoid softer plastics. Styrofoam cups and other styrofoam food containers are awful. If you get hot food in a styrofoam go box, the box is often visibly marked by contact with hot food and you can smell it and taste it. It's also potentially a reason to switch to an electric vehicle -- to…

Canned food and beverage cans are lined with epoxy or plastic.

This is what you ingest when you drink/eat food from a can: https://youtu.be/pGZyT9vGraw?t=135

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Post by Ireallyapart »

myth_drannon wrote: post #52
neom wrote: post #4

My mum when I was a kid in the 90s: we don't store things in plastic, glass or ceramic only Me when I was a kid in the 90s: mum is a f'ing idiot wtf is wrong with plastic this hippy shit is dumb My mum 2020s: so plastic huh? Me 2020s: ugh.

We threw away all our glass containers because they constantly chip. I'm more afraid of ingesting piece of sharp glass than nanoplastics. I don't know why that keeps happenning, I guess dishwasher's high heat damages the glass or they keep bumping into each other.

Get the expensive pyrex glass.

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Post by digging »

bequanna wrote: post #106
digging wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because there's no good alternative to wheel tires, it's unlikely we'll see a decrease of pollution here Well, we could stop pretending that God gave cars dominion over the earth and build livable cities.

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> Suburbs don’t exist because of some big oil and auto company conspiracy. They exist because they give people an option they find more appealing vs urban areas.

No, modern car-dependent suburbs actually do exist because of oil and auto conspiracies. There exist options between high density and car-dependency. Surburbs can be walkable, and cities can have walkable low-density areas.

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Post by Taywee »

lm28469 wrote: post #153
DoreenMichele wrote: post #136

I personally try to avoid canned drinks and foods to avoid metal poisoning. I typically buy two liter sodas in plastic bottles and avoid softer plastics. Styrofoam cups and other styrofoam food containers are awful. If you get hot food in a styrofoam go box, the box is often visibly marked by contact with hot food and you can smell it and taste it. It's also potentially a reason to switch to an electric vehicle -- to…

> I typically buy two liter sodas in plastic bottles and avoid softer plastics. If you drink that plastic is the least of your problems > It's also potentially a reason to switch to an electric vehicle -- to avoid exposure to gas fumes while refueling your vehicle. Car interiors are off-gassing nasty shit all the time, especially when they sit in the sun

Both of those things are straight-up improvements, even if they're not perfect. You can nit-pick every single thing all you want, but better is better.

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Post by 83 »

nahstra wrote: post #67
deelowe wrote: post #51

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One of my favorite quotes is: "A problem is a challenge with a least one workable solution. A dilemma is challenge with multiple choices, all equally bad." If we eliminated all PFAS chemicals today, society would collapse. What's the point of eliminating PFAS chemicals to improve life expectancy if the very act of doing so would cause a famine?

What products use PFAS whose absence would cause society to collapse? If you look at the major sources of PFAS by 3M, it's not like these were essential products. Here's a random list from wisconsin.gov: Cleaning products. Water-resistant fabrics, such as rain jackets, umbrellas and tents. Grease-resistant paper. Nonstick cookware. Personal care products, like shampoo, dental floss, nail polish, and eye makeup. Stain…

PFAS is used in the coolant for semiconductor production.

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Post by kijin »

ifyoubuildit wrote: post #100
clnq wrote: post #43

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Two things: 1. Lots of drinks come in metal cans with BPA lining on the inside. 2. You can absolutely be reasonably healthy and drink some of these drinks, including the variants that are not sugar-free. I don’t think most people try to be perfectionistically healthy. But I think PFAs are not anywhere closer “reasonably healthy” to consume.

It's kinda like saying people can be reasonably healthy and still smoke some cigarettes. True enough, but if someone is trying to be healthy that's a pretty obvious change to make.

Wine would be a better analogy. It contains a large amount of a known carcinogen (alcohol), but plenty of people who try to be healthy don't feel particularly guilty about drinking some wine every now and then.

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Post by shawndrost »

shaunregenbaum wrote: post #139
JR1427 wrote: post #47

It would be worth checking that the concentrations of microplastics used in this study are of a similar concentration to those found naturally. Otherwise the research is not very meaningful.

Tap water contains about 1.67–2.08 ug/ml of nanoplastics on the larger side ( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00139... ) So this article was working with concentrations 10x larger on mice (usually worse ability to filter). Beyond that, they admitted that microplastics did not induce an effect which is most of the plastics found in the ocean, etc...

"1.67–2.08 ug/ml" is incorrect. Your link states "1.67–2.08 ug/L". In other words, the paper is about the effects of nanoplastic concentrations which are 10,000x greater than in tap water.

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Post by ericd »

BizarroLand wrote: post #134
bombela wrote: post #111

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Isn't lacquer technically a sort of plastic? I could find images for Indian Brass Container to learn what it is. But I didn't find anything conclusive for Korean steel.

Lacquer is resin from trees, not plastic. I don't know if it's better for you than plastic or really anything about its chemical composition, but it's not plastic. Edit: After reading more, there is an acrylic lacquer that was developed in the 1950s that contains plastics, but outside of that, normal or traditional lacquers are typically biological in origin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer

What percentage of lacquers these days do you think is the old natural type? I’d wager it’s very low.
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