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Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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It's absolutely super gross to selectively apply noreferer to links only to Asahi Linux or JWZ's blog, because it's obvious you're doing it specifically to spite the people running those sites. If you applied it to every link, that might be different. I mean, the receipts are still out there, people still know what's up. But at least you're not being openly prejudicial.

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Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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As far as the thread goes, the author sounds as though they are a child throwing a tantrum. In the original OpenGL thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36212674 there seems to be some discussion as to why the author hates HN, i.e. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36229753 quoted here: > It's not really all that much of a moral conundrum. Marcan's belief - expressed a number of times on his Mastodon - appea…

You can't just claim that without knowing the context. Also I think, if some website doesn't want you to link to it, and politely redirects you. You shouldn't deploy code evade referrer for that site particularly. C'mon we aren't talking about using a VPN to evade a region block, it's one website abusing their referrer tags against another.

You have no business being on the internet if you don't want to be linked to. I can't believe I have to type this out..

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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Oh, about the main developer being a vtuber? I can imagine people being shitty about that, but I always read through the Asahi posts when I see them and I've yet to see it come up here.

Not just being a vtuber, but outing them as an alter ego of marcan. Not exactly the nicest thing to do on HN's part (and I'm probably complicit by posting this comment), but also the information is already "out there" and blocking HN to keep it under wraps isn't a great strategy.

Well that's not at all what I expected when I saw "harassment" accusations thrown around. Bummer for them if somebody caught on to their alter ego, but also a dick move to take it out on an entire community who happen to use the same website.

One way or the other I'm going to continue not caring who Asahi Lina is.

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

#174

Hacker News has every right to include noreferrer in its links. The destination site was playing games based on the HN origin, so dang just fixed the bug.

They don't want the HN crowd there because it brings abuse & harassment. If Dang instead would block the domain, everyone would be happy.

It's not true that everyone would be happy. Banning an otherwise fine and on-topic site leads to angry complaints that we've banned it for unfair reasons. Nobody thinks, "oh, I guess they banned it because the site owner asked them to".

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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> to be perfectly honest these people don't seem mentally well

Please don't cross into personal attack and please don't do internet psychiatric diagnosis on HN. It only makes things worse.

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Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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Oh no, another HN conspiracy!!! Not everything needs to be a conspiracy when some of us are sick of other people's nonsense.

not a conspiracy, HN mods routinely delete stuff they don't personally like even when it doesn't go against the rules

That's definitely not true. What specifically did you see that made you think that?

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

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It's against the guidelines to point out moderation decisions. But it's relevant to the point I'm making. This is a thoughtful, carefully-worded argument that has been repeatedly upvoted and downvoted (the downvotes seem to come in pairs -- admin action?) The moderation of this comment allows anonymous people, lurking in the shadows, to make decisions about what other people read, with no accountability or consequenc…

It's far more likely the majority of users just are interested in these comments and don't want to see them, so don't, than the moderators are actively downvoting your comments, and many others, throughout the day. Those that are interested, for whatever reason, tend to have showdead enabled (I do). It's a bit of a "opt to what you want to see" system, not a "you only get our filter" system. The hard part is convincing others what you want to say is what they want to see here.

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

#179
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Well I’m still wondering how they are showing a text only to people who submitted something to HN and nobody seems to know either in the thread so at least there’s that…

It uses a CSS rule that checks if you have visited the link to submit on hacker news. https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110503368406970051

wait so you can detect if any of your visitors visited any link before? isn't that a huge privacy risk?

Re: Hacker News evading criticism by selectively adding noreferrer to certain links

#180

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You can't just claim that without knowing the context. Also I think, if some website doesn't want you to link to it, and politely redirects you. You shouldn't deploy code evade referrer for that site particularly. C'mon we aren't talking about using a VPN to evade a region block, it's one website abusing their referrer tags against another.

You have no business being on the internet if you don't want to be linked to. I can't believe I have to type this out..

What you CAN do and what you SHOULD do are often different things, and that difference is something that the HN crowd would do well to reflect on.

Asahi doesn't want attention from HN. It's a small project about hardware that most HN commenters seem to hold in contempt anyway. Why not just honor the request?

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