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Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by neom »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #25
neom wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article can be summed up as: It's expensive. This is a bullshit device nobody will use because nobody wants VR/AR. It's technically extremely impressive. It's expensive. Nobody will use this except super rich bored people and tech bros. It's expensive.

> Nobody will use this except super rich bored people and tech bros. It's expensive. Funny how we are so used to groundbreaking tech being so "cheap" now. Remember when the Apple II launched at about $6,200 for the base model after inflation? Heck, the Atari 2600 cost almost $1,000 today after inflation. Also, if you want to know how scary the inflation is, here's why your Nintendo Switch still costs $299 new: $299 i…

Adjusted for inflation: the original iPhone cost $720 in 2007, the average cell phone cost in 2007 was around $130... When the iPhone came out it was insanely expensive for "normal people"

https://www.marketingdive.com/ex/mobilemarketer/cms/news/res... (2007 prices)

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Post by cycrutchfield »

bluescrn wrote: post #38
pcurve wrote: post #7

"expensive novelty bullshit for rich people." Yes. Then it will will turn into moderately priced novelty bullshit for normal people in a few years. At lower price, I'll be buying it just for the immersive FaceTime and Photos browsing experience. This will be the new fancy iPad and Apple will make a lot of money off of it.

When did Apple pricing ever trend downwards over time?

When they added different price tiers for “Pro” vs regular

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Post by dorkwood »

Brendinooo wrote: post #3

Commentary feels a bit lazy. Seems to operate on the assumption that it's not different than previous AR/VR offerings in any way. If they can find a million people to watch movies on flights and/or use it as a monitor replacement, and if it works well for those use cases, then Apple will net $3.5B of revenue and have a solid foundation to build on. I don't think the first generation needs to do a whole lot more than…

I’ve heard the flights thing mentioned a few times now. Is that an angle they’re actively pushing?

For what it’s worth, I once brought my Quest on a flight. But when it came time to put it on, I couldn’t bring myself to to do it. The idea of becoming a spectacle while simultaneously shutting myself off from everyone around me felt embarrassing.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by jve »

> repeatedly failed to make a compelling use case for VR over the past decade

Well, including me - I'v never wanted to try one as I associated them with games or some meta world I'm not interested. But I haven't been a target for their ads, so I may not know feature set for those.

Seeing Apple device, I want to try it out as I immediately see the value in having a nice workspace :)

I think everything will depend on execution. If we compare 1 feature between pre-iPhone and iPhone era: touch. The touch was based on resistive technology and you had to physically push the screen for it to feel. It was unreliable. It was disgusting to work with. Saying that some pre-iPhone touch phone and iPhone touch phone has same feature set or even iPhone was lacking... sure. But the ease of use.

If this actually works reliably - no lags, no artifacts, no pixels, controls (eyes/fingers/voice) works as advertised - I think it will be ticket to somewhere, even if it was only extension to your pc/tablet. But this has the potential to be more than an extension.

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Post by LanceH »

filoleg wrote: post #28
fumeux_fume wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps if companies stopped releasing useless crap set to become obsolete within months we wouldn't see such articles over and over again, no?

> Perhaps if companies stopped releasing useless crap set to become obsolete within months we wouldn't see such articles over and over again, no? Is that what happened all previous times Apple released a new product category in the past decade, and such articles about it came out? For how much inevitable near-future death people forecasted on Apple's new product categories, they all seemed to have avoided the "useles…

One way is to look at the series of products Apple has produced, and they've been successful.

The other way to look at it is the series of 3d vision devices (both tv and goggles) and view how successful those have been.

So, is this the time an Apple product fails big, or is this the time that immersive 3d takes off? It seems a lot easier to say that VR has largely been rejected and it will continue to be rejected, even if Apple is doing it.

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Post by danpalmer »

bluescrn wrote: post #38
pcurve wrote: post #7

"expensive novelty bullshit for rich people." Yes. Then it will will turn into moderately priced novelty bullshit for normal people in a few years. At lower price, I'll be buying it just for the immersive FaceTime and Photos browsing experience. This will be the new fancy iPad and Apple will make a lot of money off of it.

When did Apple pricing ever trend downwards over time?

The iPod, the iPhone, the Mac...

All started with a high priced offering and introduced lower priced options over time, at least accounting for inflation.

Individual Apple product lines trend upwards, seemingly faster than inflation although I'm not actually sure that's the case. However they regularly introduce cheaper product lines to open up to new markets.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere

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Post by electroly »

bluescrn wrote: post #38
pcurve wrote: post #7

"expensive novelty bullshit for rich people." Yes. Then it will will turn into moderately priced novelty bullshit for normal people in a few years. At lower price, I'll be buying it just for the immersive FaceTime and Photos browsing experience. This will be the new fancy iPad and Apple will make a lot of money off of it.

When did Apple pricing ever trend downwards over time?

They do it by introducing lower-cost models rather than lowering the price of their flagship models. e.g. iPhone SE, Macbook Air, iPad. Right out of the gate they've signaled that they're going to do this by calling this the "Vision Pro"--expect a non-Pro later.

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Post by hellbanTHIS »

I know I'm not that good at predictions, I didn't really understand the Watch at first, the iPhone I knew was cool right away but still didn't think it deserved the massive hype the first version got... still I have to say if I had the Vision Pro sitting next to me right now I probably wouldn't be using it, that's the difference. It's not even about the price, I'd have used the 1st gen Watch and iPhone or pretty much anything else Apple ever made if didn't cost anything, I'd wear it or carry it around even if they didn't do much. I wouldn't want to wear this thing even if it were incredibly useful, it would be a chore.
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