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Can someone explain to me how a species that can do one of the following can also do something as mundane as…crash? 1. Travel faster than light 2. Sustain a peaceful, productive, spacefaring civilization over millions of years to travel here 3. Create AI that can do 1 or 2 Am I missing something here? How can both of these facts be plausibly true? These are genuine questions, not snark.
Aliens just seem to love the USA, don't they? Just like giant prehistoric sea monsters seem to love Japan. It's totally not a cover-up for another black project.
If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Everyone’s already encountered the starting conditions in most other countries. US is the only one winning Civilization Earth. I’m a naturalized US citizen, for example. Could have ended up anywhere but it’s best here in terms of opportunity and making new st…
you're really leaning into the out of touch engineer stereotypes if you think civilization can be won using criteria from a video game of all things, and that the main criteria of winning is tech & research and not say ability to sustain peace or end homelessness
step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…
And it's in this exact context that the Pentagon started to release UFO videos and the military was publicly patenting sci-fi level technology like a "craft using an inertial mass reduction device." [2] Not only does the patent read like it was written by a sci-fi jargon-generator LLM, but there's absolutely no point to it. Were something like this real, you would keep it beyond classified to not only maximize your national benefit from it, but to try to keep it out of the hands of peer nations for as long as possible. With it published, if e.g. China or Russia was going to make this, what now? Are you going to sue them? Maybe get the WTO to give them a stern talking to. Its one and only purpose is to publicize "secret" research from the military.
So why? Literally the only explanation I can see is it just being another ham-fisted recruitment effort. 'You can go make a living making software pushing ads on people who don't want them, or you can enlist in the military, travel the world, and perhaps even one day get clearance to see and start working where the "real" science is happening.'
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[1] - https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/hearings/to-receive-te...
[2] - https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en?inventor=S...
step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…
Just look at the history of alien / UFO sightings. It all began at the beginning of WW2 and the Cold War. It is my humble opinion all just a psychological operation. Some benefits that a government would have doing such a thing would be: Division, misdirection of MSM and population, other news that is very important is intentionally being sandbagged. Fear, Hysteria, & Confusion allows further tightening of control of…
https://listverse.com/2016/04/24/10-historic-divine-painting...
This is CIA psyop to distract and hid in this noise, actual news, that it is been exactly 10 years since whistleblower former intelligence Edward Snowden told world the truth about CIA and U.S. government. What is the connection ? Headlines: > *Whistleblower former intelligence* official says government possesses ‘intact and partially intact’ craft of non-human origin And here is Snowden interview from 5 hours ago: S…
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-farrell-tenyearsafter-...
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36097082 (10 days ago)
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I do. If it were possible we'd surely see them everywhere. Even if time travel was a one-way trip there's enough future billions of us that there'd be massive numbers with the sort of incurable fascination seth the past that they'd be motivated to travel back and see what it was like. Doesn't really seem any more or less likely than alien intelligence at any rate.
Time traveling humans is more likely for the following reason: It requires only one thing: worm hole or some other yet-to-be-invented mechanism for traveling to the past. For this to be alien intelligence, two things are required: First alien intelligence has to exist, and second, they too need a mechanism for speedy travel, to travel to another galaxy such that they can reach the destination within an individual ali…
Slow-traveling aliens likely come from a long-lived origin civilization (although it's possible that origin civilization went "extinct" millions of years ago, but its descendants continue to reproduce of spaceships traveling slowly outward in different directions, these descendants would arguably be from the same origin civilization, which must definitionally be long-lived).
Fast-traveling aliens might be from a civilization doomed to be short-lived, but they achieved FTL travel so we just happen to meet them. They could have popped up a million years ago, and be on schedule for extinction in another million years. But since they can travel quickly, they don't need to be a long-lived civilization in order for it to be likely that we might encounter them. They could be one of many short-lived civilizations.
In a universe without FTL travel, the probability that we encounter an alien civilization is dependent on the expected duration of an alien civilization; the more long-lived civilizations that exist, the more likely we'll encounter one, because they've had more time to slow-travel. In such a no-FTL universe, there could be a high probability of civilization, but with a low expected civilizational lifetime. So we'd be unlikely to encounter any civilization, despite the high number of them in the universe.
So what I find ironic is that even with a bunch of aliens crashing (regardless of how slowly) onto our planet, we can't actually infer much new information about the Fermi paradox, or whether we've made it past the Great Filter. Either we're encountering civilizations that must be long-lived because they're slow-traveling, in which case there may not be a filter because the paradox was resolved by the lack of FTL travel; or they can be both long-lived and unknowably short-lived, in which case we don't know where the filter is because any civilization we meet could go extinct next (perhaps achieving FTL travel even achieves some prerequisite for a specific class of extinction event?).
So either there might not be a filter, or we don't know where it is. The most informative scenario would be for us to meet a long-lived, fast-traveling civilization.
step 1: Throw shit against the wall step 2: See what sticks step 3: Amplify that messaging step 4: Exercise power through providing spectacle and influencing attention step 5: Pacify with spectacle or agitate differences through amplified narratives to create chaos or division Am I insane for thinking that nation state manipulation of social media narrative is a more likely explanation for the upsurge of UFO/alien re…
Absolutely fascinating that the top two replies to an article about Aliens! are positing basically the same conspiracy: that this is a deliberate psyop run by a "nation state" and not just... people being wrong about stuff? Why go through the trouble to refute one unlikely and poorly supported hypothesis just to jump right into a new one? Has Occam taught us nothing? There are no successfully hidden "conspiracies" of…
Aliens just seem to love the USA, don't they? Just like giant prehistoric sea monsters seem to love Japan. It's totally not a cover-up for another black project.
If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Everyone’s already encountered the starting conditions in most other countries. US is the only one winning Civilization Earth. I’m a naturalized US citizen, for example. Could have ended up anywhere but it’s best here in terms of opportunity and making new st…
If the ship of such an incredibly advanced civilization came across Earth then the differences between US technology & that of other parts of the world would require an anthropological microscope for them to detect. Like us looking back on Western vs. Eastern roman empire circa 400-500 C.E. and trying to decide which was more advanced. (well, at least < 476 C.E... being conquered is going to take one side down a few pegs)
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People have been discussing all kinds of things since the dark ages. Should the military consider astrology when making war plans and battle plans too cuz some people did and still make decisions based on astrology?
Ronald Reagan did, right? Commander in chief did, so for at least a time, they did?