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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by monetus »

heavyset_go wrote: post #235
zoogeny wrote: post #166

I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. My belief is that for some reason, the US government used psychology tests to identify a select few people who naturally "want to believ…

> I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. This is the same MO as Stephen Greer's grift about the same thing. Greer claims that he was given access to classified documents and information that say the government is hiding th…

I have a family member who won't stop consuming everything about Steven Greer on youtube, and I don't know what to do about it. It is driving me crazy and I just have to tell someone, sorry.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by kortilla »

heavyset_go wrote: post #305
HL33tibCe7 wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, most great tech originates in the US. China etc are good at copying. I know that’s an unfashionable statement, but let’s do away with this false modesty for once Btw I’m not from the US.

The US can't even manufacture an iPhone if they wanted to. The world's tech comes out of East Asia.

This isn’t true. TSMC is using EUV tech all funded by Intel. If the US were sufficiently motivated by a Taiwanese fall to China, a fab would be brought up somewhere else quickly with the support of the US (if not in the US).

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by newZWhoDis »

zoogeny wrote: post #166

I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. My belief is that for some reason, the US government used psychology tests to identify a select few people who naturally "want to believ…

If this is a psyop that’s still huge news.

These are fantastic claims from a highly ranked and decorated member of the IC, released with official backing/DoD preAuth

Someone has some explaining to do

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by justinclift »

adventured wrote: post #150
robofanatic wrote: post #137

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lol ... you are assuming aliens think like humans. Its almost impossible to tell what aliens consider "baddest mfers" or "insane tech and research".

The most advanced tech and research, as an overall, would be trivial for an advanced alien to decide. And the US has been leading in those categories for 80 years at least. The notion that it's impossible to figure out whether an advanced alien would think Afghanistan or the US have more advanced tech/research/science, is absurd. And if you can make that distinction, you can keep going.

> And the US has been leading in those categories for 80 years at least.

Imagine being skipped over for first contact because your country invented "software patents", making itself uncompetitive... ;)

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Post by rozab »

stavros wrote: post #319
Dalewyn wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is winning (or has won and keeps on winning) the Conquer Victory, the Diplomacy Victory, and the Culture Victory. I think that's the main means of winning Civilization? Been years since I played one.

I like how you're using a game that obviously reflects the values of the culture that created it to make the point that that culture is better. If Civilization were made in Denmark, you'd have Population Happiness Victory and that's about it.

Paradox Games are from Sweden.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Post by throwaway892238 »

tmn wrote: post #15

I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

There are probably 5,000 comprehensive possibilities. You could sit around all day making up "what ifs". What if it's a psyop? What if it's some meteorite that crashed into a pile of pine resin and made a composite? What if it's a fake craft two dudes in a covert research lab made to troll an intelligence service with some experimental materials? What if the dude is actually lying?

Who cares? It's not going to amount to anything. Even if it exists, nobody's gonna let us see it.

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Post by postalrat »

DrBazza wrote: post #49
gumballindie wrote: post #4

Dont get my hopes high. I have the feeling it will be a disappointment. Also why would aliens only visit the us? Surely other countries would be in possession of alien tech if the us was.

Technology to fly light years. But not the technology to land on earth without crashing.

They don't tend to last more than 20,000 years before some malfunction brings them down.

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Post by dieselgate »

tialaramex wrote: post #348
bragr wrote: post #208

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Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Some small but significant portion of the population is mentally ill, and it seems likely a few would hear a joke ("we keep the alien space ships through that door, I'd show you but I'd have to kill you"), take it way too literally, and it becomes the focus of their mental illness. That seems not only possible but probable given the size the military industrial complex.

Also people who don't understand what is or is not possible easily get confused about what is impossible / difficult versus possible / easy. My guess is that a substantial fraction of otherwise competent American adults don't realise VTOL jet aircraft are a thing we can and have built for example, and that if one of them saw a prototype like the Flying Bedstead (Rolls Royce experimental platform, which doesn't look a…

I say this from an angle of religious tolerance but some people actually “believe in angels” etc, people will believe whatever they want

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Post by Loquebantur »

bragr wrote: post #208
zoogeny wrote: post #166

I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. My belief is that for some reason, the US government used psychology tests to identify a select few people who naturally "want to believ…

Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Some small but significant portion of the population is mentally ill, and it seems likely a few would hear a joke ("we keep the alien space ships through that door, I'd show you but I'd have to kill you"), take it way too literally, and it becomes the focus of their mental illness. That seems not only possible but probable given the size the military industrial complex.

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