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US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#221

I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. My belief is that for some reason, the US government used psychology tests to identify a select few people who naturally "want to believ…

Wait, that David Grusch guy never saw those stuffa despite that he led the analysis? This is weird. How can you do analysis without seeing the real thing?

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#222
post #15

I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…

Are the Navy pilots actual eye witnesses to seeing these crafts or are they eye witnesses to whatever is electronically displayed to their HUDS/Helmets/lenses? It seems every video I've come across, it was all electronic so it has me thinking just a software error.

How about cell phone video?[0]

[0]https://www.dvidshub.net/video/843620/navy-2021-flyby-video

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#223
post #96

Aliens have never crashed here. Aliens have never even visited our solar system. The truth is more interesting: the galaxy is emptier than it should be.

Maybe it's emptier than it should be because that's how the universe is always made to appear to emergent civilisations at the dangerous and volatile point of evolution we presently find ourselves at?

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is more likely? a) An alien civilization has overcome the massive problems of interstellar travel and is visiting us right now. or b) The people making these claims are wrong. While a) isn't impossible, b) seems so much more likely. Also if they have the technology to cross interstellar space, surely they have the technology not to be detected by us?

c) An alien civilization can trivial visit Earth and has been for thousands of years. You make a lot of assumptions how difficult it wouldv be to visit and even why they would be here.

I assume that interstellar travel is really difficult for any civilization. That assumption is based on my knowledge of physics (relativity in particular).

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#225

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lol ... you are assuming aliens think like humans. Its almost impossible to tell what aliens consider "baddest mfers" or "insane tech and research".

The most advanced tech and research, as an overall, would be trivial for an advanced alien to decide. And the US has been leading in those categories for 80 years at least. The notion that it's impossible to figure out whether an advanced alien would think Afghanistan or the US have more advanced tech/research/science, is absurd. And if you can make that distinction, you can keep going.

Colonists with muskets and cannons didn't care which tribe had the best bows and spears

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#226

Aliens just seem to love the USA, don't they? Just like giant prehistoric sea monsters seem to love Japan. It's totally not a cover-up for another black project.

If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Everyone’s already encountered the starting conditions in most other countries. US is the only one winning Civilization Earth. I’m a naturalized US citizen, for example. Could have ended up anywhere but it’s best here in terms of opportunity and making new st…

You think extraterrestrial life is impressed with ad tech? If anything, they'd land in Veldhoven.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#227

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> If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Sounds like they'd care more about China/South Korea/Japan/Taiwan/etc then.

> China/South Korea/Japan/Taiwan/etc then. Well, if they care about software, all of the above have inferior software compared to the US.

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Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#228

I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. My belief is that for some reason, the US government used psychology tests to identify a select few people who naturally "want to believ…

> All of this stuff reeks of some kind pf psyop. In this case, I agree. I usually try to avoid conspiratorial thinking and conspiracy theories, but the DoD and related agencies have been putting out all kinds of information about UFOs in the past few years. My question is: why? The DoD isn’t known for their public relations. My best speculative guess is that they’re claiming they’ve found alien craft and exotic alien…

But who is the messaging intended for? Foreign military intelligence agencies can draw the same conclusions, that this is some kind of misdirection, and that it's more likely a cover for US or Chinese weapons tech, they're not dumb.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#229
post #48

Never in human history have we had so many high quality cameras in the hands of so many people. And still no pictures of ufos. Or Bigfoot. Or Nessie.

Anything that doesn't have an explanation is labeled a fake unless it's from an official source like the military.

Re: US urged to reveal UFO evidence after claim that it has intact alien vehicles

#230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Sounds like they'd care more about China/South Korea/Japan/Taiwan/etc then.

> China/South Korea/Japan/Taiwan/etc then. Well, if they care about software, all of the above have inferior software compared to the US.

Sounds like an internet connection would suffice.
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