How much do you need macos around to use it? Sounds like the original install and then for firmware updates? I’d like to keep telemetry to a minimum and not use macos if possible.
OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
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Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Hardware manufacturers in the 90s were incentivized to support Linux to expand their customer base. That is not an accurate description of linux support by hardware manufactures from that time period. > Unsupported hardware in the 90s typically had a much larger customer base and group of hackers willing to spend time adding supporting for it. I also don't think this is generally correct. Have you looked at all the…
> Have you looked at all the random drivers in the linux kernel for niche hardware. A ton of that is from one or two hobbyists taking the time to add support. Sure, for _niche_ hardware. When was the last time a GPU driver was added by reverse engineering it? The single Nouveau maintainer was burnt out, last I heard, and the project was never a serious alternative to NVIDIA's closed driver. Kudos to whoever found the…
Nvidia now only sort of cares about linux because of gpgpu applications. They still clearly don't care about gaming on linux; or desktop stability.
Yes, I will take Nouveau over the official drivers whenever I can.
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
“I think at one point they were making it virtually impossible to replace components because they were serial locked.” They are very much still doing that
In fairness, most instances of them doing that actually significantly increase the cost of evil maid hardware tampering attacks. If I could, I'd configure grub or whatever to serial-lock my Linux install to my desktop hardware (and keep a recovery key that would unlock it at another location).
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
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A micro ryzen 5600U build with really bad quality components can be half the price of a mac mini with equal CPU performance. If you upgrade all of the mac specs you can probably get a larger divide, but IMO maxed out macs don't make much sense for most people.
It's that focusing on one specific aspect of the system and compromising on everything else that produces the really big discrepancies. I tried to use PCPartPicker to spec out a rough equivalent of a maxed-out Mac Pro in terms of CPU cores, GPU performance, and RAM and SSD capacity, but still ended up at with at most a 3.5x disparity, and that's ignoring the GPU VRAM capacity limitation and features like Thunderbolt…
A valid complaint from me is linux based container resource utilization. The only really good fix for that IMO is if apple did something like WSL2 or FreeBSD's linux ABI and had an efficient compatibility layer. For now I just run dev containers on my (linux) desktop.
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
#195Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Have you looked at all the random drivers in the linux kernel for niche hardware. A ton of that is from one or two hobbyists taking the time to add support. Sure, for _niche_ hardware. When was the last time a GPU driver was added by reverse engineering it? The single Nouveau maintainer was burnt out, last I heard, and the project was never a serious alternative to NVIDIA's closed driver. Kudos to whoever found the…
Nvidia/Nouveau is a good example. I've had a number of laptops with nvidia graphics. For most of that time Nouveau was _more stable_ than the official nvidia drivers. Linux clearly was a second class citizen for nvidia for most of the last 20 years. Maybe go back and rewatch linus' rant about nvidia if you need a reminder about how terrible they have been historically. Nvidia now only sort of cares about linux becaus…
Nouveau has never been more stable, or nearly as performant as official NVIDIA drivers. I've had the exact opposite experience from you on every laptop I've had since Nouveau was released, so we must live in different universes.
> Linux clearly was a second class citizen for nvidia
And Linux is not even on the radar for Apple. :)
Anyway, I think we've exhausted our arguments here, and are just talking past each other now. Have a good day.
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nvidia/Nouveau is a good example. I've had a number of laptops with nvidia graphics. For most of that time Nouveau was _more stable_ than the official nvidia drivers. Linux clearly was a second class citizen for nvidia for most of the last 20 years. Maybe go back and rewatch linus' rant about nvidia if you need a reminder about how terrible they have been historically. Nvidia now only sort of cares about linux becaus…
See, now I just think you're gaslighting me. Nouveau has never been more stable, or nearly as performant as official NVIDIA drivers. I've had the exact opposite experience from you on every laptop I've had since Nouveau was released, so we must live in different universes. > Linux clearly was a second class citizen for nvidia And Linux is not even on the radar for Apple. :) Anyway, I think we've exhausted our argumen…
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
#198From a follow up post on Mastadon https://social.treehouse.systems/@AsahiLinux/110497512340479... : "Also in this update: We now have a cpuidle driver, which significantly lowers idle power consumption by enabling deep CPU sleep. You should also get better battery runtime both idle and during sleep, especially on M1 Pro/Max machines. Thanks to the cpuidle driver, s2idle now works properly, which should fix timekeepin…
"New firmware-based battery charge control, which offers fixed a 75%/80% threshold setting. To use this, you need to update your system firmware to at least version 13.0, which you can do by simply updating your macOS partition to at least that version or newer. This new charge control method also works in sleep mode." This is interesting, am I correct in thinking this a feature implemented by Apple and now supported…
It does, but in a weird way. You can turn on "adaptive charging" and it will randomly decide to charge to 80%.
If you want to properly control it, just install the wonderful AlDente utility ( https://apphousekitchen.com/ ). Then you can manually control the max charge percentage. Mine is permanently set to 80% because I never really use even 40% of the battery on my M2-based laptop.
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
#199From a follow up post on Mastadon https://social.treehouse.systems/@AsahiLinux/110497512340479... : "Also in this update: We now have a cpuidle driver, which significantly lowers idle power consumption by enabling deep CPU sleep. You should also get better battery runtime both idle and during sleep, especially on M1 Pro/Max machines. Thanks to the cpuidle driver, s2idle now works properly, which should fix timekeepin…
Such an amazing set of engineers jacking away at this. What awesome work they’re doing.
s/jacking/cracking
Re: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux
#200Its been more than a year I'm running asahi on my macbook air and I can't stress how grateful I feel for enjoying such wonderful freedom. I don't feel like ever going back to x86 to be honest, at this point there is nothing lacking or unable to run and when the neural engine drivers come online now that the GPU is starting to mature people will be able to juice out every last bit of computation this machine is capabl…
That’s the only thing I’m really missing currently.