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"You don't know if you were gonna have a life changing epiphany next week or not!!!" The radical changes in mentality from psychedelics is well documented. Not understood but documented.
People have life changing epiphanies without psychedelics all the time though, and people (me) take psychedelics without having them. So yeah, GP could have been due for one.
Humans do all the time. A person does very seldomly.
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I feel like time goes by “slower” for me ever since I did a heroic dose a few years ago. Used to be stressed the f out all the time. Now I feel like I can enjoy every full second. Crazy how much time we have in life when we just stop paying attention to the negative energies like stress and instead channel them into storage for something positive later. I’ve always been efficient and quick at learning new things and…
The problem is, of course, you have no idea if that dose is what caused the change. That change in personal outlook may have been coming your direction anyway, or you may have experienced it sooner if you hadn't been doing LSD at all.
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This is consistent with the idea that the geometric patterns of hallucinogenic drugs are just feedback artifacts in an analog system of your senses, and by imparing its 'clock' signal chemically, you get periodic noise whose geometry is proportional to the signalling frequency and its failures. No higher dimensions, just maybe a lower, impaired, fractal dimension. There are still theraputic uses for this impairment,…
You admit that there is plenty of recreational and therapeutical use for them and then that leads you to the conclusion that they’re not spiritual gateways. I find this surprising as those are one in the same to me. Spiritual experiences have been about recreation, understanding others, the self, personal growth, coming of age, etc… I feel like your post in general is full of acknowledgment of these drugs capabilitie…
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> The problem is, of course, you have no idea if that dose is what caused the change What problem exactly? This seems like a dismissive take on someone's positive experience. Are your referring to the scientific problem of studying cause & effect of the psychedelic experience? Science is figuring that out.
No I’m talking about this one’s person’s experience. They are putting out their notion of cause and effect on a public forum and I am questioning it. That is OK, right?
The way you are doing it, could maybe be improved.
"The problem is, of course, you have no idea if that dose is what caused the change"
You clearly judged here based on little information. How do you know, that he cannot know?
(Unless you argue about philosophical limits of "knowing")
When till time X there was behavior Y and at time X there was a strong trip - and afterwards differences,then it seems pretty linked to me.
All the people in this thread who decoded it used long exposure or faster playback. Using the latter, for me, it starts to become readable at 2.5x and is essentially a clear static image at 4x. (I had to download the video and play it back using VLC.) Which for me, makes this claim a bit absurd: > At a theoretical level, this confirmation is significant because it is the first clear demonstration of a real perceptual…
This is consistent with the idea that the geometric patterns of hallucinogenic drugs are just feedback artifacts in an analog system of your senses, and by imparing its 'clock' signal chemically, you get periodic noise whose geometry is proportional to the signalling frequency and its failures. No higher dimensions, just maybe a lower, impaired, fractal dimension. There are still theraputic uses for this impairment,…
1. What's the proper way to experience this?
No information is given on how the judges experienced this content. Did they watch it in 1080p or 360p? Did they watch it over YouTube or on a local player? Did they watch it on a loop or did they have to manually play it every loop? Did they watch it in a dark room or with the lights on? Did they watch it on a phone or a monitor or a TV?
2. What is the transmission speed?
How much time did someone tripping take to see the message? These methods could be ineffective if it takes someone sober the same amount of time to read the message.
3. What is the transmission method?
I specifically avoided the descriptions before watching the videos so I wouldn't bias myself by knowing the answer. I was still able to read the messages when I sat myself down in a dark room, put the videos on loop, and "spaced out" for a few minutes. I suspect these messages rely on the tendancy of someone tripping to stare off into space so the afterimage effect can come into play. I understand that the authors are coming from a non-scientific background and cannot pin down the specific traits of tripping on LSD that causes these methods to be effective. I strongly suspect these messages work by watching the content in a specific manner instead of the result of an altered function or altered reception of visual stimuli.
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> It may be better for your brain to be in a psychedelic state on certain tasks, but if it was better in the general case evolution would have already made it so. Would the same not be true of delusion, psychopathy, and various other human shortcomings?
In the general case, having delusions and other psychotic issues are not selected for traits with positive outcomes for the individuals having them. Your life is hard if you have them and conventional success is rare. They persist in the general population to an extent for the same reason other hereditary illness persists. "I would die for two brothers or 8 cousins". A gene that is to your detriment in 1/3 cases but…
You're saying that diseases persist in humans because they're selected for, because they're beneficial to others? That's interesting, do you have some examples?
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> if you have a clean bill of health, your mind is in the right place, no family history of severe mental illness, and have a trusted sober friend And if you have all that you don't need to be doing mind altering drugs anymore.
I went from drinking a consistent 1-2 alcoholic drinks a day (very rarely getting drunk tho, just loved homebrewing and craft beer), being nearly obese, with little cardiovascular/muscular fitness to being in a much better place. I now exercise regularly, have a resting heart rate of 54 bpm, lost 30 pounds, meditate every day, eat much more healthfully, rarely consume alcohol, and I am more patient and listen to my partner better.
The increased neuroplasticity caused by physcadelics when combined with a desire to improve habits is a very powerful combination.
There is also a legal, mushroom based therapy for anxiety and depression that has shown great results, available in Oregon.
I really do believe society is much too welcoming of alcohol consumption, and much too resistant to physcadelics. We got this one so wrong.
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Isn't the parent's point that, you don't necessarily need to use psychedelics but can use other technology to simulate the perception of different cadence or scale...? (E.g. A similar experiment https://xkcd.com/941/ ) > and you will never be as relaxed as a sloth. Also FWIW, does the sloth also consider itself to be relaxed or rather just "normal" ;-) Isn't the perception of being relaxed itself exactly reflective o…
I’d note that the technological filter only works on captured stuff. Filtering reality like this isn’t technically feasible with external devices alone. Whether that’s useful or not seems fairly subjective, though. People find utility in all sorts of things I don’t.
I'm assuming this discussion is all within the context of the original article "Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics" --- in which case understanding these specific messages actually don't require psychedelics.
Not implying psychedelics have no utility, just that whatever utility they have probably doesn't lie in interpreting these "slowed down scan" animations.