Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics

Post by fnordpiglet » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 4:33 PM UTC

jabbany wrote: post #94

elif wrote: post #62

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Being able to see that which our perception actively suppresses because it is hyper-focused on a certain cadence is indeed a gift. If you believe that our perceptive filters, evolved over millennia of survival requirements, is the only or even best way to perceive our reality, I would invite you to consider that hummingbirds will never enjoy Mozart, and you will never be as relaxed as a sloth.

Isn't the parent's point that, you don't necessarily need to use psychedelics but can use other technology to simulate the perception of different cadence or scale...? (E.g. A similar experiment https://xkcd.com/941/ ) > and you will never be as relaxed as a sloth. Also FWIW, does the sloth also consider itself to be relaxed or rather just "normal" ;-) Isn't the perception of being relaxed itself exactly reflective o…

Post by mahathu » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 4:34 PM UTC

LoganDark wrote: post #84

causi wrote: post #69

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people who have experienced what they refer to as "eternity", "multiple life times", "thousands of years", etc. They didn't "experience an eternity". They experienced an emotional feeling they likened to an eternity. This is the difference between your computer running a program for a thousand years and you changing the date settings. These people did not go through an eternity of perception, processing, and thought;…

> These people did not go through an eternity of perception, processing, and thought; they had the label on their memories altered. No, psychedelics really can speed up thought. It's not uncommon to experience a lot more in a much shorter amount of time than normal. For example, I've experienced this first-hand where I could not even finish a single sentence before I was so far ahead in thought that I completely forg…

Post by falling_ » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

drdeca wrote: post #178

nbardy wrote: post #174

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You admit that there is plenty of recreational and therapeutical use for them and then that leads you to the conclusion that they’re not spiritual gateways. I find this surprising as those are one in the same to me. Spiritual experiences have been about recreation, understanding others, the self, personal growth, coming of age, etc… I feel like your post in general is full of acknowledgment of these drugs capabilitie…

I don’t think “lower dimension” is a pejorative, just, contrasting with the “higher dimension” claim. Like, just literally a lower dimensionality (on account of the fractal dimension, where the metric dimension is less than the (integer) topological dimension)

Post by LastTrain » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 4:42 PM UTC

tekno45 wrote: post #179

LastTrain wrote: post #163

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The problem is, of course, you have no idea if that dose is what caused the change. That change in personal outlook may have been coming your direction anyway, or you may have experienced it sooner if you hadn't been doing LSD at all.

"You don't know if you were gonna have a life changing epiphany next week or not!!!" The radical changes in mentality from psychedelics is well documented. Not understood but documented.

Post by rvcdbn » Tue, Jun 06, 2023, 4:47 PM UTC

codeflo wrote: post #51

All the people in this thread who decoded it used long exposure or faster playback. Using the latter, for me, it starts to become readable at 2.5x and is essentially a clear static image at 4x. (I had to download the video and play it back using VLC.) Which for me, makes this claim a bit absurd: > At a theoretical level, this confirmation is significant because it is the first clear demonstration of a real perceptual…