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Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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I'm betting the distro packagers like Canonical will solve the problem for end users. Meanwhile, Flash continues to circle the drain, and this might hasten its inevitable, but slow demise.

I'm betting the distro packagers like Canonical will solve the problem for end users. They might simply shift to Chrome as their default browser.

Not Chrome, they can't it is not open source. They could switch to Chromium, which could presumably run flash, but it is not clear how you obtain it if only Chrome will distribute it. Presumably they will have to distribute it as they say they will ship security updates, but that is unclear, as Linux flash does not auto update from Adobe.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Dear Adobe: just kill Flash already, for good. The world (wide web) will be a better place.

In effect they are. No android support, now nothing except Chrome support on Linux. I'd assume that if my theory is true, Mac OS X will take a similar route(why it didn't happen first is beyond me) before Windows finally meets a similarly gimped fate.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Adobe is dropping linux support after 11.2. With the except of Chrome due to a new API that "aims to provide a layer between the plugin and browser that abstracts away differences between browser and operating system implementations." Given that linux really hasn't been a priority for them and they are dropping flash all together; this isn't really news. The press release says Adobe worked with Google on Pepper. So f…

With the except of Chrome due to a new API This is what's hard to understand: they are not dropping NPAPI on Windows, so it's not like the Chrome API is the enabler here.

From the press release it seems NPAPI is OS dependent while Pepper is less so.

This all assume there is actually going to be something more than security updates after 11.2 for other platforms. And that it is going to be something we would want on Linux.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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So Google really are evil after all.

On the whole I don't think this is evil. More of a lateral move, morally. I can't imagine what Google hopes to accomplish with this since Flash is currently circling the drain, relevancy-wise, but if it does anything to hasten the move away from using Flash at all, then it's a plus.

I think Pepper also supports their native client applications (x86 code which runs in a sandbox) and google probably would like to see that more used.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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With the except of Chrome due to a new API This is what's hard to understand: they are not dropping NPAPI on Windows, so it's not like the Chrome API is the enabler here.

My assumption is that among {NPAPI/Windows, NPAPI/Linux, PPAPI/Windows, PPAPI/Linux}, NPAPI/Linux provides the least value for the work required.

Its more like among {NPAPI/Firefox/Windows, NPAPI/Firefox/Linux, NPAPI/IE/Windows, PPAPI/ALL, etc}, NPAPI/Firefox/Linux provides the least value.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Can't tell if you are serious. Who uses AIR? I've never seen it.

tweetdeck was hugely popular and written with AIR, but I believe they went native some time ago.

Native on Mac & Windows, Chrome-only for Linux (which just isn't the same experience as AIR offered)

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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The part I'm not yet getting about Pepper - does it only support those native client objects as described here? https://developers.google.com/native-client/overview

Or do plugins like flash have the choice between native client and just using a shared library as they did and Pepper also supports that?

In the first case it would basically mean that flash would run sandboxed (and maybe on every system supported by Pepper, so once ARM support is added it could run there as well again). But probably with some speed-hit (~5% according to the documentation)

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Why is there so much noise over this? How many times does Flash have to die? Yes, the Flash plugin will be with us for another decade, but shouldn't most of us have moved on? I uninstalled Flash on my two Macs in December. I'm doing fine so far. Sometimes, I need to switch over to Chrome for video, but so far I'm not missing it.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Why is there so much noise over this? How many times does Flash have to die? Yes, the Flash plugin will be with us for another decade, but shouldn't most of us have moved on? I uninstalled Flash on my two Macs in December. I'm doing fine so far. Sometimes, I need to switch over to Chrome for video, but so far I'm not missing it.

I have relatives on Linux and this will complicate things for me. Basically I have to install Chrome and explain why videos and other stuff work only on Chrome. However, it is the way I prefer it by now anyway: use a Firefox without Flash for daily browsing and Chrome for Flash things.

Don't underestimate how complicated it might be to explain this to "noobs", though.

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