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Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by yardie »

kiloaper wrote: post #30
bwarp wrote: post #6

I get the feeling this isn't going to be that much of a problem. I've not got the flash plugin installed in Firefox and I'm not finding any great hardship these days. Perhaps it'll kill Flash a bit quicker considering the amount of Kiosks and Internet cafes running Firefox+Flash on Linux.

>I'm not finding any great hardship these days. You must not watch many videos in your browsers then outside the odd one on Youtube. The reality out there is that Flash is still the main choice for delivering video. Flash is a necessary evil. It may be dying but for many it's still necessary and its removal from Firefox removes significant usability for its users.

I watch plenty of videos and I've never had a problem with the big streaming sites delivering h264 versions. The only flash videos I still encounter are on older, lightly, maintained sites or sites that just download flv files.

And if iPad sales are any indication I don't think it's as big a deal as you make it out to be.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by bwarp »

kiloaper wrote: post #30
bwarp wrote: post #6

I get the feeling this isn't going to be that much of a problem. I've not got the flash plugin installed in Firefox and I'm not finding any great hardship these days. Perhaps it'll kill Flash a bit quicker considering the amount of Kiosks and Internet cafes running Firefox+Flash on Linux.

>I'm not finding any great hardship these days. You must not watch many videos in your browsers then outside the odd one on Youtube. The reality out there is that Flash is still the main choice for delivering video. Flash is a necessary evil. It may be dying but for many it's still necessary and its removal from Firefox removes significant usability for its users.

Not really. I prefer written words as the content is easier to scan through. Video is almost laborious watching.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

lwhi wrote: post #26

This announcement further convinces me that Flash is gearing down to obsolescence.

Indeed. I've run FlashBlock for years, and minus Hulu and a couple other sites, I find I almost never have a need to click on the blocked Flash objects.

And it seems like the days of sites implemented entirely in Flash have pretty much come to an end.

Given the nature of Flash I could never understand why it was so much trouble to implement on Linux, or to create a 64-bit version. I can't imagine what a colossal mass of spaghetti code that app must be. I've been waiting impatiently for it to die since at least 2001.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by gcp »

enkrs wrote: post #3

In that case I realy hope to see this site change soon: https://wiki.mozilla.org/NPAPI:Pepper

Apple and Mozilla have already stated that Pepper is entirely redundant with ongoing standardization efforts and even counterproductive to them. So why is Google pushing it? Answer for yourself.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

gexla wrote: post #17
bwarp wrote: post #6

I get the feeling this isn't going to be that much of a problem. I've not got the flash plugin installed in Firefox and I'm not finding any great hardship these days. Perhaps it'll kill Flash a bit quicker considering the amount of Kiosks and Internet cafes running Firefox+Flash on Linux.

Or just maybe any improvement makes Flash usable on Linux without crashing the browser. People might actually start enabling Flash on Linux if that happens.

I don't find Flash crashing my browser on Linux too often, but it crashes itself pretty regularly.

Plus the older hardware I run Linux on can barely show a 288p Hulu video, with lots of stuttering, even though the machine can play videos twice that resolution flawlessly in any of the native video players.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

loevborg wrote: post #22
raphinou wrote: post #7

Let's hope this is one more step to Flash irrelevance. I don't count the times that Flash caused me trouble, and I'll be happy to see it go away.

I think Adobe is nuts to be so hostile to its Linux users. Surely it can't be that expensive to continue developing the old plugin? The thing Flash had going for it was its ubiquity: it worked on all (desktop) browser. Now that that's gone, this will be another good reason not to have new projects depend on Flash.

Adobe has always been this hostile to Linux users. It hasn't seemed to had much of a dent in their success.

Meanwhile, Flash is dead, it just hasn't stopped kicking yet. It's been a long decade, but many people will be cheering it and kicking the corpse when it finally shuffles off to the great /dev/null in the sky.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

#48

Post by gcp »

yardie wrote: post #41
kiloaper wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm not finding any great hardship these days. You must not watch many videos in your browsers then outside the odd one on Youtube. The reality out there is that Flash is still the main choice for delivering video. Flash is a necessary evil. It may be dying but for many it's still necessary and its removal from Firefox removes significant usability for its users.

I watch plenty of videos and I've never had a problem with the big streaming sites delivering h264 versions. The only flash videos I still encounter are on older, lightly, maintained sites or sites that just download flv files. And if iPad sales are any indication I don't think it's as big a deal as you make it out to be.

The iPad includes H264 support, as does Chrome. Firefox doesn't (and neither does Chromium, does it?). So this does screw anyone over who wants to watch H264, which really is the majority of video on the web.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #34
moondowner wrote: post #10

So, Google agreed to make Flash on Linux available only via Chrome? Damn... But, if major Linux browsers implement Pepper API, on the other hand it will mean that we (the users) won't have to bother installing (deb/rpm/etc) packages every now or then. Maybe it will turn out better.

So Google really are evil after all.

On the whole I don't think this is evil. More of a lateral move, morally.

I can't imagine what Google hopes to accomplish with this since Flash is currently circling the drain, relevancy-wise, but if it does anything to hasten the move away from using Flash at all, then it's a plus.

Re: Flash For Linux Will Only Be Available For Chrome

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Post by gcp »

winthrowe wrote: post #25
drats wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't tell if you are serious. Who uses AIR? I've never seen it.

Grooveshark's desktop app used it. Only place I've personally seen it in the wild.

Simfy (another Spotify competitor) also uses it.
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