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The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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It's been shelled for months probably by all parties at some point > Ukraine's Armed Forces (UAF) "developed a tactic to work around that limitation by conducting multiple precision strikes across the key Antonivskiy Bridge and the road that ran atop the Kakhovka Dam in such a way as to break the roadways in a line across them, rendering them unusable without actually destroying the bridges' infrastructure (or badly…

Dam wasn't shelled, roadway was on the side pretty far from dam.

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Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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No, it's a scorched earth tactic, in preparation to abandoning Crimea. Without this dam, Crimea will be without water for at least next 3 to 5 years after Ukraine recaptures it.

The water situation is way overblown. Crimea did fine since 2014 when the water was cut. There were shortages in the central and north parts but mostly because of high demand from the local industry (Crimean Titan plant) and agriculture (it is hard to believe but they were planting rice over there). It also helped that due to the climate change we had unusually heavy rains and even floods in the southern parts. Becau…

Thanks for the insightful information. What's your take on the war otherwise?

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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Don't confuse "pro-Russian" with "anti-bullshit" stance. Finding Russia to be the aggressor and Ukraine to be the victim doesn't automatically imply you have to throw away all your mental faculties and gobble up wartime propaganda without questioning, reducing yourself to a binary classifier - "it says Ukraine good == it's good; otherwise, it's pro-Russian trolling". War time is literally the last moment you want to…

Anyone who values STEM and the legacy of enlightenment that has made STEM possible should definitely pledge allegiance to the Western side in a conflict with Russia or China, even if that includes repeating wartime propaganda at times. I find it perfectly rational.

Funding this war (which we're losing) is gutting funding for further education and scientific research.

It's possible there's a secret plan which will turn things around, but it seems more likely that the only thing which benefits from our inevitable defeat is the arms industry.

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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It's sad how people still believe Russian propaganda, and these claims have been constant throughout the war: - We didn't bomb the civilians, that was Ukraine. - The torture chambers weren't ours, they were found in Ukraine. - Ukraine are nazis (no comments on the Russian white supremacists in the military). - We did not blow up Nord Stream 2, that was Ukraine (or the US). - We did not blow up the dam, that was Ukrai…

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Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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Anyone who values STEM and the legacy of enlightenment that has made STEM possible should definitely pledge allegiance to the Western side in a conflict with Russia or China, even if that includes repeating wartime propaganda at times. I find it perfectly rational.

Funding this war (which we're losing) is gutting funding for further education and scientific research. It's possible there's a secret plan which will turn things around, but it seems more likely that the only thing which benefits from our inevitable defeat is the arms industry.

> It's possible there's a secret plan which will turn things around, but it seems more likely that the only thing which benefits from our inevitable defeat is the arms industry.

The benefit of a Russia that is incapable of committing more or any forces to there numerous wars of conquest is a net benefit for the entirety of the Europe as it increases stability in the region.

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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I we focus on the largest nuclear power plant in Europe for a minute. Are all reactors completely shut off? Is there any danger of meltdown?

Of course it's totally unsafe: it's in a war zone. It's on the current, active front line of a warzone. If this dam collapse doesn't cause a catastrophic spent fuel nuclear disaster in the next few hours, there's still imminent danger of that from any number of different causes – most visibly, military actions occurring right next to (or inside of!) the power plant. The IAEA messaging has been extremely shrill about…

I agree. I have been following the daily IAEA reports and the level of desperation on the side of the agency is hard to overstate.

Despite ZNPP being in an active war zone, as you say, the IAEA has done an amazing job monitoring the situation on the ground.

Incredible that hardly anyone in Europe knows or cares about it. Scary times, indeed.

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nova-kakhovka-dam-khers... Simulation of worst-case scenarios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tRYWbVD5AE The Russian State News agency claims that the dam "collapsed due to damage" https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/166592960325106892... Ukraine says it was destroyed by the Russian military. Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kakhovka+Hydroelectric+Po…

Who benefits the most from the collapse? Does it disturb Ukraine or Russian military the most? Who will achieve military goals because of this? Does it help Ukraine in information warfare? (does it increase West participation to war)

Obviously ruzzia benefits, by blocking western front in preparation of the Ukrainian advance.
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