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The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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No, it's a scorched earth tactic, in preparation to abandoning Crimea. Without this dam, Crimea will be without water for at least next 3 to 5 years after Ukraine recaptures it.

If you have a credible source that goes into detail on that, I'd appreciate it.

There's no significant drinking water source in Crimea. And this was the dam directing water to Crimean water channel. Not sure what other credible source you may want.

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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Ukraine just started counterattack so this effectively blocks attack through Kherson region.

Following some of the threads, there's satellite evidence it may have just failed for mechanical reasons. If this was unintentional and they didn't abandon those positions downstream they're in for a bad time.

The fact it's timed with the first day of the counter offensive and it's been long discussed as a very likely target for Russia that would be one hell of a coincidence.

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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If you have a credible source that goes into detail on that, I'd appreciate it.

There's no significant drinking water source in Crimea. And this was the dam directing water to Crimean water channel. Not sure what other credible source you may want.

The next question is how long would it take to repair if it does slow down / reroute the counter offensive?

There's lots of evidence it harms Russian troop build ups in the region but only if they plan on abandoning the southern Kherson region and don't have any plans beyond that.

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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Following some of the threads, there's satellite evidence it may have just failed for mechanical reasons. If this was unintentional and they didn't abandon those positions downstream they're in for a bad time.

The fact it's timed with the first day of the counter offensive and it's been long discussed as a very likely target for Russia that would be one hell of a coincidence.

Yeah it's a bit of a weird one.

https://twitter.com/evanhill/status/1665915785707921408?ref_...

Looks like the dam had been running extremely high so there's cause beyond just random chance, but even that high level could have been deliberate.

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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Did Ukraine just wipe out majority of Russian defences? That could go down in history as one of the boldest moves ever.

Russia was in control of the dam, had mined it, and had in recent weeks let water levels go up to unprecedented levels. Something like 80 settlements will be completely inundated, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe loses its cooling reservoir and attacks over the river will be impossible for weeks. I don't think Ukraine did it. (getting information from the thread in /r/worldnews).

If it wiped away defences it'd be more than worth it and Ukraine is now more than capable with its Shadow Storm missiles which UK provided just for this kind of attack.

It's a very bold move and if intentional it could be pivotal in this conflict.

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Following some of the threads, there's satellite evidence it may have just failed for mechanical reasons. If this was unintentional and they didn't abandon those positions downstream they're in for a bad time.

The fact it's timed with the first day of the counter offensive and it's been long discussed as a very likely target for Russia that would be one hell of a coincidence.

It's been shelled for months probably by all parties at some point

> Ukraine's Armed Forces (UAF) "developed a tactic to work around that limitation by conducting multiple precision strikes across the key Antonivskiy Bridge and the road that ran atop the Kakhovka Dam in such a way as to break the roadways in a line across them, rendering them unusable without actually destroying the bridges' infrastructure (or badly damaging the dam)," the think tank said.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-himars-helped-ukraine-retake-khe...

Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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This article currently has much more information (as of the time of posting) https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/jun/06/russia-uk... ( "Russia-Ukraine war live: dam near Kherson destroyed by Russian forces, says Ukraine, sparking evacuations" )

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Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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This article currently has much more information (as of the time of posting) https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/jun/06/russia-uk... ( "Russia-Ukraine war live: dam near Kherson destroyed by Russian forces, says Ukraine, sparking evacuations" )

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Re: The Nova Kakhovka Hydroelectric dam in Ukraine has been blown open

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If you have a credible source that goes into detail on that, I'd appreciate it.

There's no significant drinking water source in Crimea. And this was the dam directing water to Crimean water channel. Not sure what other credible source you may want.

> Not sure what other credible source you may want.

I'm a little confused: You did not provide any source. You're not obligated to provide any, but I don't understand your comment.

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