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Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin

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Interesting word choice: 'non-human' vs 'extra-terrestrial'

Very calculated wording. Gives them a form of outs if the population realizes that it's actually just the US government generating fake "alien" stories to control the masses using sophisticated AI/AGI technology, they can then claim "actually we always knew it was advanced AI beings".

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#102

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Can you provide any link to good photos or videos evidences ? I've never heard of any advanced metallurgy. Do you have any usefull web ressource for me to know more ?

Haha, I watched the video the other day on that channel, but I can't remember which video it was, sorry! Alright I found two that are related to what I mean (that actually shows the fragments): - https://youtu.be/zNZHTlRFD6E?t=1415 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9xDsOkrPRo These ones are connected to Linda Moulton Howe. Here's another one with I guess different fragments related to Gary Nolan (where he just talks…

>Unironically posting ancient aliens. First video, guy finds small piece of metal with a metal detector. He's a geology professor, but doesn't go into the geology at all, just

"I've never seen anything like this in all my years" ∴ alien metallurgy maybe.

Second video: Are there desirable properties to an alloy of bismuth and magnesium? The 'expert metallurgist from New Jersey' didn't say, just that they didn't know of any way to make it. All that really proves is the limits of the knowledge of one metallurgist from New Jersey. There are any numbers of ways that metal might condensate in layers over time, all unlikely to naturally occur, but any far more likely than ancient aliens.

Third video: Guy literally admits that this is all pure speculation and that no definitive conclusions can be drawn from these random pieces of metal and that none of them are rule out all possibilities besides the existence of visitors with manufacturing technology beyond our comprehension.

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#103

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Ironically this is what many people thought when they saw Colin Powell go in front of the UN and do his song and dance about Iraq's WMD program. Which surely must have been a clear and present danger to the world at large, for this guy to go on record and stake his whole reputation and legacy on it. And yet, when you actually listened to what the guy was saying ...

Indeed, you should actually listen to what this whistleblower is saying rather than relying solely on credentials. I don't know though, whether Colin Powell risked his career in any way, it doesn't look like it. You are weirdly not providing any reasoned arguments whatsoever, only illogical slander. Why is that?

The point is that just because someone with a chest full of medals says something, that doesn't make it so. You have to look into the evidence for the thing itself.

I think it's clear we're talking past each other by this point. Again, you can fit this news story into your head however you like.

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#104
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Nah man, if that were true, governments & corporate would have revealed the existence of aliens when they first knew about them. Rather than playing an elaborate counterintelligence cover game, pretending they have advanced projects reverse engineering, creating technology, a secret space program, to give the illusion of control and knowledge about some thing they don’t understand, they can’t reproduce, and they have…

Nah man, it's true because now they have the capacity to generate all of this fake garbage at the press of a button. They could never have pulled it off before in a convincing way. If the entire planet is going to be unified under a single authority that takes its orders from "aliens", it best be convincing. That's the direction we're headed.

If that's as far as you can get with it, I understand. But what if the "psyop" was you being conditioned to interpret it like that? Ha ha ha :)

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Nah man, if that were true, governments & corporate would have revealed the existence of aliens when they first knew about them. Rather than playing an elaborate counterintelligence cover game, pretending they have advanced projects reverse engineering, creating technology, a secret space program, to give the illusion of control and knowledge about some thing they don’t understand, they can’t reproduce, and they have…

If this story goes into more mainstream outlets, it's pretty clear it's just an attention distraction they can turn on and off like a tap to keep people watching the news confused. The only interesting question (or trade) to me is what this alien narrative is a pretext for. What I am 100% sure of is that if aliens existed, they could have chosen to reveal themselves at any time, there is no concievable civilization t…

Or maybe you've just been conditioned to think it's a distraction, as part of the disinfo campaign in order to dismiss it? A way to protect from the very leaks that may be happening now! Ha ha ha :)

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#106

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Haha, I watched the video the other day on that channel, but I can't remember which video it was, sorry! Alright I found two that are related to what I mean (that actually shows the fragments): - https://youtu.be/zNZHTlRFD6E?t=1415 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9xDsOkrPRo These ones are connected to Linda Moulton Howe. Here's another one with I guess different fragments related to Gary Nolan (where he just talks…

>Unironically posting ancient aliens. First video, guy finds small piece of metal with a metal detector. He's a geology professor, but doesn't go into the geology at all, just "I've never seen anything like this in all my years" ∴ alien metallurgy maybe. Second video: Are there desirable properties to an alloy of bismuth and magnesium? The 'expert metallurgist from New Jersey' didn't say, just that they didn't know o…

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#107
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Nah man, it's true because now they have the capacity to generate all of this fake garbage at the press of a button. They could never have pulled it off before in a convincing way. If the entire planet is going to be unified under a single authority that takes its orders from "aliens", it best be convincing. That's the direction we're headed.

If that's as far as you can get with it, I understand. But what if the "psyop" was you being conditioned to interpret it like that? Ha ha ha :)

And what if the psyop is you being conditioned to condition me into believing that I'm being conditioned into interpreting it like that?

You can talk in circles all you like, but at the end of the day basic rationality rules. Look at the playing field, look at what's at stake, look at the current state of affairs in the world, look at who has to gain what, and it's all rather obvious. If you can't see through that then it's on you.

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#108
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Insane, but totally believable "a[n eighty year] Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages."

How many of these crashes are there? Did these aliens fly halfway across a galaxy just to crash in our neck of the woods? Are they flying around in cheap junk? Or are they just terrible pilots? All those special vehicle morphologies and unique atomic arrangements just to crash land. Odd.

Maybe it's an alien weather ship :P

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So New York Times, where Ralph worked for 45 years, was not interested in this story? They also mention the Washington Post did not run it, claiming they "needed to publish quickly" without explaining why they couldn't wait for WaPo to authenticate it.

It's not just not the mainstream media onto it. Even the dedicated UFO gatekeepers haven't touched it yet. I think that indicates that: it's factional, and it's a new faction.

Paraphrasing this guy: "The story is bigger than Snowden. It's just breaking and mainstream media have had a month lead on it, been approached, but refused. It should have people writing to their representatives to investigate Gursch's allegations. People should be outraged at the criminal activity that has gone on outside of oversight. Media is complicit so far."

https://youtu.be/rQjbFZT9_EM?t=1370

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#110

When these clearly superior beings that have advanced far beyond us come knocking, I am sure the first thing we should ask is - whether they accept Jesus as their lord and savior, as it seems very important to us.

How we should handle our first encounters has been asked before in an article titled:

"Kill Them And Eat Them" (opinion) by Jules Siegel, illustrated by Doug Taylor in

Playboy Magazine August 1977 vol.24, no.8

IIRC the article argues that:

- every modern civilization has been a disaster for less-modern ones,

- the only group that have survived encounters with modern civilization are the Yanomami Indians of the Amazon who have avoided cultural contamination by killing and eating anyone who intrudes upon their territory. Therefore...

- we should adopt the Yanomamis' strategy in dealing with advanced civilizations.

Perhaps you are right about Jesus. Perhaps Jesus and the Yanomami would be quite compatible. After all, when I was a teen we played guitars and sang songs at Mass. One relevant verse comes to mind:

Eat His body,

Drink His blood,

And we'll sing

A song of love,

Allelu-, allelu-, allelu-, alleluia.

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