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Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#211

Now if only you could hide the tab-favicon sidebar... Arc does this, but they don't give you the URL bar. It may sound nitpicky (and it is) but I really want the hidden tab sidebar AND a visible URL bar. Here's hoping either Arc or Brave will make this an option.

I really want this option too. The dev mode hack works but it's not very pretty in the least.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#212

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IIRC, the background processes for these ad and crypto services still run in the background even when you disable them. I haven't checked the browser in a long while. But it's easily verifiable by opening the brave task manager. Quick Google result: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/5429

No that's not the case. I just checked. The GitHub issues that you linked also are closed. I followed the duplicates and they're all closed with comments mentioning that it's been fixed.

I checked to. On my computer, with a fresh install, i have to kill Utility: Bat Ledger Service from the brave task manager every time the browser is started. Thankfully it stays closed.

The ads and crypto stuff are also not exactly as simple to opt out as "literally disable it in the welcome screen when you first install" as one commenter enthusiastically mentioned.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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It's strange to me how a key selling point of these vertical tabs is "save on vertical space", but they almost always still include a header bar. You can see in the video they posted that it saves almost no vertical space, while now taking up a massive amount of horizontal space.

Perhaps we should just make monitors in 4:3 like we used to instead of 16:9 which is ridiculous since we typically don't watch movies in the office.

I have a 16:9 screen in portrait orientation, excellent for reading/writing etc. One small annoyance of 1080 as horizontal resolution is that it is just slightly too thin for some web layouts.

Sat next to it is a 32" 2560x1440 unit (they have near identical pixel pitch, so I don't have to worry about oddities like differential scaling between screens) that most of the time is split into two halves or ⅔+⅓ (under windows, the FancyZones util in PowerToys is handy for this).

I liked the arrangement so much at home that I've replicated it at my own expense in the office.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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No that's not the case. I just checked. The GitHub issues that you linked also are closed. I followed the duplicates and they're all closed with comments mentioning that it's been fixed.

I checked to. On my computer, with a fresh install, i have to kill Utility: Bat Ledger Service from the brave task manager every time the browser is started. Thankfully it stays closed. The ads and crypto stuff are also not exactly as simple to opt out as "literally disable it in the welcome screen when you first install" as one commenter enthusiastically mentioned.

Crypto stuff is definitely disabled, even if you skip the welcome screen. Actually, I don't think they even ask you to enable it on the welcome screen either.

All of it is definitely opt-in. Even Brave Rewards are disabled by default.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that I want a browser that functions like an IDE. Multiple panes with tabs, that can be resized either to custom sizes or automatically (binary space partitioning). It’s too much for a general purpose browser, which is how we’ve got the Chrome, Safari, Firefox we have. But I think the appeal of a more information-dense browser is broader than we think, anyone doing…

I’d be keen to try something like that out. I’ve been using pop os for the past few months and I’ve fallen in love with its snapping window manager. I have a 4K screen plus the laptop (xps 13). I can have two browsers open, then my ide. And then terminal on the laptop screen. And I can easily slide the divider between the ide and browsers as necessary based on what requires the most space at the time. Only issues I’v…

Sway (and i3?) actually has the notion of containers, which can contain multiple windows and can be selected and manipulated as a unit.

It works nicely. The only thing that I haven't automated yet is that I have a rather specific workspace layout on my 4k screen and converting it from/to a laptop-screen workspace when unplugged takes a few steps.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Why do people need dozens or hundreds of tabs to the point that they need groups for them? We've had bookmarks (and folders for them) for decades... It made way more sense when you could expect tabs to always be loaded, and not behave like another set of bookmarks.

Usually what happens is stuff like like: - I spend time researching X, have a few pages open for that, get bored with it, want to continue in a few days. - I work on X, which has a few related tabs open, and I need to switch to Y for a bit. - There's a long-term thing I'm working on and off. - Something I found and want to look at later; "bookmarks-light" (bookmarks might as well be /dev/null for me).

You would probably also like Simple Tab Groups. The tabs are grouped however you like and get out of your way until you want to look at them again.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Vertical tabs without nesting (trees) is such a wasted opportunity. Nesting lets you close/minimise/etc a group of a related tabs, eg. all the search results you opened from a single query. I hope Brave's implementation at least lets you switch tabs using the mouse wheel, which is probably my favorite feature of the Firefox vertical tabs addons. BTW, I was a TST user for many years, and recently switched to Sidebery,…

Sideberry is fantastic. Not only is it a great replacement for Tree Tabs, I've also found it to be a better alternative of Simple Tab Groups. With `userChrome` entries to auto-hide Sideberry and the native FF tabs, it's improved the web experience on my smallish laptop screen tremendously.

Agreed! Here's my current `userChrome.css` to hide the tab bar when Sidebery is open, IIRC adapted from their repo because theirs didn't work fully for me. Admittedly this is hacked together, it was mostly just trial and error, but it works!

    #main-window #TabsToolbar {
      height: 40px !important;
      overflow: hidden;
      transition: height 0.2s ease-in 0s !important;
    }
    #main-window[titlepreface*="‏‏‎ ‎"] #TabsToolbar {
      height: 0 !important;
      min-height: 0 !important;
    }
    #main-window[titlepreface*="‏‏‎ ‎"] #tabbrowser-tabs {
      position: fixed;
      z-index: 0 !important;
    }
    #main-window[titlepreface*="‏‏‎ ‎"] .tab-stack {
      visibility: hidden;
    }
    #main-window[titlepreface*="‏‏‎ ‎"] #toolbar {
      min-height: 0;
    }
    #main-window[titlepreface*="‏‏‎ ‎"] #sidebar-header {
      visibility: hidden;
      height: 0px;
      padding: 0px !important;
      border: 0px !important;
    }
    #main-window[titlepreface*="‏‏‎ ‎"] #titlebar {
      visibility: hidden;
      height: 0px;
    }
To make it work only when Sidebery is open, make sure you add a preface value in the Sidebery settings and use the same value in the css above; in my case I just use an invisible character. Couple it with Ctrl-E keybind to toggle the Sidebery panel, and it's been a big quality of life improvement for me.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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> Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).

Would you mind providing just a little more information? This is clearly an issue but I'm not sure what it could be -- I'm not sure sentry is installed on the site either. What page were you on where you saw that? Were you not able to load the page itself? If you wouldn't mind opening up the browser console, I'd love to know what went wrong.

I have the same on Mull on Android, just the homepage from clicking the link above. Annoyingly there doesn't seem to be a dev console on mobile Firefox so I can't see what the error is.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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IMO the closer the ratio gets to 1 the better but the only fact I have for this is 1280x1024 (5:4) being better than 1024x768 (4:3)

Meanwhile here I am, using an ultrawide 21:9 monitor and loving it as I can easily split it in two or three columns whenever I need. I don't understand why people like squarish monitors so much, the human FOV is not square.

How is the human FOV relevant? I just want to be able to fit as much vertical content into the visible area as possible. Because almost all documents we use are vertically organized.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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The latter is more valuable to the ad tech industry. In fact, they benefit from browsers with crippled bookmarking systems. Every time a user types in "facebook" instead of facebook.com into the omnibar, that user is directed to a Google/Bing/Brave Search page with ads.

I can't live with Braves terrible bookmark manager, and inability to save history for more than a few months. But I can't live without the flawless ad blocking.

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