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Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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post #29

It's strange to me how a key selling point of these vertical tabs is "save on vertical space", but they almost always still include a header bar. You can see in the video they posted that it saves almost no vertical space, while now taking up a massive amount of horizontal space.

Perhaps we should just make monitors in 4:3 like we used to instead of 16:9 which is ridiculous since we typically don't watch movies in the office.

y'all need to get yourself tiling window managers.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#62
post #37

I see the name “Brave Browser” and my brain just refuses to engage. Their marketing team ruined the product for me before I ever got the chance to try it.

> I see the name “Brave Browser” and my brain just refuses to engage.

Not sure I follow.

I used Firefox for 20 years but had to switch to a Chromium browser due to performance. Went with Brave, seemed to be the best of the bunch.

I've been happy with it. What's the problem with the name?

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#63
post #47

Brave gives a very bad vibe (mostly due to the affiliate links scandal), I prefer to just use my favorite browsers (ff/edge) + uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger which give good privacy/adblock experience, are open source and customizable to my liking.

A minor autocomplete mistake from 2 years ago (quickly fixed and apologised for by the CEO [1]) is framed as a 'scandal'.

Meanwhile Mozilla is showing signs of serious, systemic internal org issues, and no problem? [2]

It's pretty clear a user / privacy-first model is central to Brave's mission, so these drive-by comments griping loudly about minor, historical issues never feel intellectually compelling.

[1] https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1269317625915400192

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36077360

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#64
post #23

I've been using Firefox with Tab Center Reborn, and a config which collapses the tabs so only the favicons are visible. Using Shift-Tab, Ctrl-Shift-Tab and Ctrl-T, Ctrl-W to go around and open/close is so logical for me. First time I heard about Tree style tabs I was so against them because they occupied significant amount of space and I didn't know you could collapse them. I don't see myself ever going back horizont…

Tree Style Tabs work well, because screen estate is not wasted on 16:9 and 16:10 style displays. Web browsing is mostly reading task and because of usability, line length cannot exceed a certain width. Thus, there is more screen estate horizontally around the page than vertically on top and bottom of the page you are reading.

There is the issue of pages which are designed only for very wide screens and for mobile. In between screen sizes will cause the main content to be annoyingly skinny, if it isn't totally unreadable. These sites are relatively rare, thankfully.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#65

It's strange to me how a key selling point of these vertical tabs is "save on vertical space", but they almost always still include a header bar. You can see in the video they posted that it saves almost no vertical space, while now taking up a massive amount of horizontal space.

Arc moves the header bar stuff (URL) to the left pane, so the entire right pane is site content.

Arc is way ahead on browser UX. Opening links in Pinned Tabs into a modal over the Pinned Tab content is exactly how I want to use link aggregator sites

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#66
post #31

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> Perhaps we should just make monitors in 4:3 like we used to instead of 16:9 which is ridiculous since we don't typically watch movies in the office. That's on the right track, but going too far. 16:10 or 3:2 is much more reasonable. The idea of using 16:9 screens for work needs to die in a fire.

IMO the closer the ratio gets to 1 the better but the only fact I have for this is 1280x1024 (5:4) being better than 1024x768 (4:3)

Meanwhile here I am, using an ultrawide 21:9 monitor and loving it as I can easily split it in two or three columns whenever I need. I don't understand why people like squarish monitors so much, the human FOV is not square.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#67
post #58
post #16

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I just want the shift-ctrl-c to be in every browser. Probably my favorite feature from Arc.

Don't leave us hanging...

I believe they mean shift-cmd-c and it copies the current URL to the clipboard. Comparable to cmd-L + cmd-C in one keystroke.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#68

It's strange to me how a key selling point of these vertical tabs is "save on vertical space", but they almost always still include a header bar. You can see in the video they posted that it saves almost no vertical space, while now taking up a massive amount of horizontal space.

You can hide the title bar while vertical tabs are enabled. I am using it on a laptop and it feels great.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#69

OmniWeb (from Omnigroup, developers of OmniGraffle, OmniPlan, OmniOutliner et al) was their web browser offering in a particularly fecund period of browser development in the early 2000s, which had vertical tabs. The tabs themselves were little thumbnails of the contents of the web page in question. I used OmniWeb as my main browser for many years, right up until Firebug and Firefox became the preferred development e…

OmniWeb was great! I think Opera still did it first, though.

I moved on to Safari after it died, but I missed vertical tabs dearly and still do. Hopefully this idea catches on well enough for the Safari team to finally steal it.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

#70
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't leave us hanging...

I believe they mean shift-cmd-c and it copies the current URL to the clipboard. Comparable to cmd-L + cmd-C in one keystroke.

Thanks!

(Not a user of the browser in question)

But Cmd+L+C is exactly the same number of sequential keypresses as Cmd+Shift+C. So I guess Firefox has this desirable behaviour covered!

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