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Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by eviks »

biggestfan wrote: post #2

It's strange to me how a key selling point of these vertical tabs is "save on vertical space", but they almost always still include a header bar. You can see in the video they posted that it saves almost no vertical space, while now taking up a massive amount of horizontal space.

Yes, they don't follow their own principles to the logical conclusion In Vivaldi it's much better - you can get rid of the header bar completely and only have the search/tool bar, styled to be narrower, saves real space

And since horizontal space is cheap in most websites, the latter part is less of an issue (though you still don't need it to be massive)

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by dangond »

qudat wrote: post #94
ojkelly wrote: post #83

The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that I want a browser that functions like an IDE. Multiple panes with tabs, that can be resized either to custom sizes or automatically (binary space partitioning). It’s too much for a general purpose browser, which is how we’ve got the Chrome, Safari, Firefox we have. But I think the appeal of a more information-dense browser is broader than we think, anyone doing…

That’s why people like single tab browsers. Then you leverage a tiling manager like i3 or sway to manage the windows

What are some examples? I finally got around to using a tiling window manager this week and have been loving it, but would love a browser without a status bar to go with it

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by a5aAqU »

hedora wrote: post #97

A while back, I switched to just using private mode all the time, and haven’t looked back. The main problem I have now is that I have trouble finding old stuff because internet search keeps getting worse. Bookmarks aren’t really a solution because they are not searchable, and I’m bad at predicting what I will want to re-read in 5-10 years.

In Firefox, the bookmarks are in a sqlite database that you could probably query with an extension or other tool.

https://stackoverflow.com/a/740183

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by eviks »

slily wrote: post #42

Why do people need dozens or hundreds of tabs to the point that they need groups for them? We've had bookmarks (and folders for them) for decades... It made way more sense when you could expect tabs to always be loaded, and not behave like another set of bookmarks.

Because bookmarks are a bad separate UI, the tabs and sessions are right there and retain your currently working scheme, and also don't include something you worked on 10 years ago and saved in the same folder

And the content of tabs is also cached/loaded unlike with bookmarks

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by Tagbert »

bradgessler wrote: post #92

The more enhancements I see browser vendors making to tabs, the more I think they’re reinventing bookmarks/favorites. Safari introduced “tab groups” a while back, which to me is an insane mess of complexity. When I think about it though they’re just folders and each tab is a bookmark/favorite. The vertical tabs in Brave remind me of bookmarks/favorites too.

For me, tab groups are nothing like bookmarks. Tab groups are a way of managing already open tabs in related group; showing and hiding groups as you need them. I use a similar tool in Firefox and I always have tabs related to about 4-5 projects open at once. I use the tab group tool to switch between the tabs by project so I only need to deal with 10-15 tabs at once.

These are tabs that I don’t want to close as they have context and sometimes ongoing edits. It’s a bit like having multiple windows each with tabs but this keeps it together in one window and makes it easier to manager.

Without this, I would be facing 50-75 tabs and trying to figure out which ones were related to the project I needed to work on at the current time.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by gukov »

qudat wrote: post #94
ojkelly wrote: post #83

The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that I want a browser that functions like an IDE. Multiple panes with tabs, that can be resized either to custom sizes or automatically (binary space partitioning). It’s too much for a general purpose browser, which is how we’ve got the Chrome, Safari, Firefox we have. But I think the appeal of a more information-dense browser is broader than we think, anyone doing…

That’s why people like single tab browsers. Then you leverage a tiling manager like i3 or sway to manage the windows

There is a Chrome extension that allows you to limit the number of tabs per window. Tab Limiter I think (on my phone atm).

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by felixfbecker »

behnamoh wrote: post #107
ojkelly wrote: post #83

The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that I want a browser that functions like an IDE. Multiple panes with tabs, that can be resized either to custom sizes or automatically (binary space partitioning). It’s too much for a general purpose browser, which is how we’ve got the Chrome, Safari, Firefox we have. But I think the appeal of a more information-dense browser is broader than we think, anyone doing…

And not an IDE like VSCode, but a fully customizable IDE. It's so frustrating to yearn for basic features in VSCode only to be ignored for years. For example, on macOS, a good amount of space is wasted because we can't hide the menu/title bar. We can't customize tabs either. No vertical tabs like Edge. No tabs height customization. It's either their way or the highway. A gripe with Brave: Why doesn't the mouse-over f…

VS Code has always had vertical tabs. It actually launched without horizontal tabs support and only added it due to community pressure. The reason was that VS Code/Monaco was originally designed to run in the browser, and the VS Code team wanted to avoid having a "tabs within tabs" UI.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by qudat »

dangond wrote: post #112
qudat wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s why people like single tab browsers. Then you leverage a tiling manager like i3 or sway to manage the windows

What are some examples? I finally got around to using a tiling window manager this week and have been loving it, but would love a browser without a status bar to go with it

The main one that comes to mind is https://surf.suckless.org/

But there are many other minimal UI browsers as well as Firefox that support no tabs.

I’ve been using qutebrowser which doesn’t have much of a UI since it is vim based

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by jorvi »

pezezin wrote: post #66
Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO the closer the ratio gets to 1 the better but the only fact I have for this is 1280x1024 (5:4) being better than 1024x768 (4:3)

Meanwhile here I am, using an ultrawide 21:9 monitor and loving it as I can easily split it in two or three columns whenever I need. I don't understand why people like squarish monitors so much, the human FOV is not square.

Widescreen and especially ultrawide makes sense with bigger screens but is terrible on laptop-sizes screens, at least outside of media consumption.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by iansinnott »

Now if only you could hide the tab-favicon sidebar...

Arc does this, but they don't give you the URL bar. It may sound nitpicky (and it is) but I really want the hidden tab sidebar AND a visible URL bar. Here's hoping either Arc or Brave will make this an option.

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