So whats the next reddit replacement
Lemmy? One of the devs of Lemmy posted this on Christian's thread on Reddit.
https://r.nf/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_re...
Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
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#823So whats the next reddit replacement
Lemmy? One of the devs of Lemmy posted this on Christian's thread on Reddit. https://r.nf/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_re...
Discussed on HN:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36141083 (>1000 comments)
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This is what everybody thinks, until they grow large enough to care about the amount of money they’re burning and get tired of it. Then they try to not lose so much money, and their loyal users turn out not to be so loyal.
All reddit is doing is storing text and serving it to people. This not expensive or a hard problem. You grab a bunch of servers, you set them up properly, and then you write your app properly. No resume-driven bullshit; no hype-driven bullshit; no “we need to be galaxy scale now ” bullshit. No email notifications, besides basic “thanks for registering, here is your login” and “here’s a password reset link.” No cloud-…
> I am sick and tired of systems engineering being grandized, when all you have to do is sit down somewhere quiet and think about the problem — with a bit of tea, and some way to access reference material.
> Reddit is not a hard or interesting problem.
Exactly, tech is full of this weird hubris that everything has to be super complicated and over-engineered.
Heck, while you exclaim disdain for Python, I've seen large web services run on Django and a few servers behind load balancers with very few problems.
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#826I think it's very clear that the recent LLM boom is directly responsible for Twitter, Reddit, and others quickly moving to restricted APIs with exorbitant pricing structures. I don't think these orgs really care much about third-party clients other than a nuisance consuming some fraction of their userbase. Enterprise deals between these user generated content platforms and LLM platforms may well involve many billions…
If you want training data for an LLM and are actively talking to some data providers, you'd just ask for a dump, instead of making a billion small requests. (You'd make the billion small requests, if you are doing this on the sly.)
Right that'd be the case now but previously you could just make a billion small requests for free.
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#827I think companies don't understand that APIs are not only a way to make money, but a way as well to control bot and scrapper. If Reddit APIs are too pricey, some people will run crazy expensive GET on entire pages to retrieve the content dynamically, and this will cost them more money than by letting clients use well designed APIs.
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#828I think it's very clear that the recent LLM boom is directly responsible for Twitter, Reddit, and others quickly moving to restricted APIs with exorbitant pricing structures. I don't think these orgs really care much about third-party clients other than a nuisance consuming some fraction of their userbase. Enterprise deals between these user generated content platforms and LLM platforms may well involve many billions…
This is very obviously what's going on.
The web is in the process of rapidly filling up with AI regurgitated garbage, eventually there's going to be a handful of sites with real usable content on them left, reddit being one of the biggest.
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#829What a sad sad sad state of the internet. The Cluetrain Manifesto/Intertwingularity ideals of a connected world are being hosed by shitty bullshit greedy capitalism. Possibility is closing up shop & ending. Sad days.
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#830Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's a sign of the times, also replicated outside of reddit, for example Mastodon. I enjoyed a solid 20 years of online discourse that was overall reasonable, and most of it not very political. Now everything is highly politicized with a hard split across two camps where before I barely could detect the very concept of a camp at all. There's no detectable reasonable right-wing online, it always escalates into…
> Give it time and far-left will dominate as moderates silence themselves out of fear. This is already happening across the board.
I feel like for every comment on Reddit that's even slightly controversial, I need to watch my words and add various layers of overtones in order to avoid things being taken out of context or given the worst possible interpretation. People are there to score points, so comments are longer than they need to be or people attack. It's part of why the dreaded "/s" is so popular over there.
I greatly appreciate the rules here that we should read and interpret in good faith - and the fact that it's enforced.