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You can always file a lawsuit. In Germany, it's even easier, a C&D court order is enough here to make most of the social networks reconsider.
On what basis?
Here's a much more informative post [1] from Apollo developer Christian on Reddit last month, along with an older post [2] with some additional info. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_ca... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_fe...
I'm confused as your first link is the same link as this HN post - unless mods have changed it.
Here's a much more informative post [1] from Apollo developer Christian on Reddit last month, along with an older post [2] with some additional info. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_ca... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_fe...
I'm confused as your first link is the same link as this HN post - unless mods have changed it.
The web went in the wrong direction when we abandoned the initial concepts of user agents, which was that the browser has the ultimate choice of what to render and how. That concept, transferred to today's world of apps would simply mean that any client like Apollo is essentially a browser locked on Reddit's website, parsing HTML (which has the role of an API) and rendering the content in a native interface. As long…
> Unfortunately with today's SPA apps we don't even get the HTML directly It works the other way: with today's SPAs the API (that powers the frontend) is exposed for us to use directly, without going through the HTML - just use your browser's devtools to inspect the network/fetch/XHR requests and build your own client. ----- On an related-but-unrelated note: I don't know why so many website companies aren't allowing…
The purpose of an API is the agreement, more than the access. You can always reverse engineer something, but your users won't be too happy when things randomly stop working, whenever reddit chooses.
Here's a much more informative post [1] from Apollo developer Christian on Reddit last month, along with an older post [2] with some additional info. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_ca... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_fe...
I'm confused as your first link is the same link as this HN post - unless mods have changed it.
The reality is that Apollo doesn't serve intrusive ads, and thus, every user using Apollo instead of their own first party apps is lost revenue. Unfortunately, reddit is in that late stage monetization step where they need to prove they are capable of big revenue to justify a high IPO share price. One can only hope there'll be a watershed moment like the one that killed Digg. So far, reddit has been very careful rais…
I think it's very clear that the recent LLM boom is directly responsible for Twitter, Reddit, and others quickly moving to restricted APIs with exorbitant pricing structures. I don't think these orgs really care much about third-party clients other than a nuisance consuming some fraction of their userbase. Enterprise deals between these user generated content platforms and LLM platforms may well involve many billions…
> So at generous estimates of $600M and 430M monthly active users, that's $1.40 per user per year, or $0.12 monthly. ... With the proposed API pricing, the average user in Apollo would cost $2.50, which is is 20x higher than a generous estimate of what each users brings Reddit in revenue. This is 20x higher than what each user currently brings Reddit in revenue, but I'm betting that Reddit is going to be cranking up…
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> One can only hope there'll be a watershed moment like the one that killed Digg. I think a critical part of the Digg exodus was that most people already saw Reddit as a clear #2 in the space. When Digg fucked up, there was an obvious place for everyone to migrate to. I don't see that right now. Facebook isn't cool anymore, Twitter has a large number of people who won't use it because of Elon, Mastodon isn't mature e…
Mh, it feels like there has been little to no innovation and competition between companies about social media that are primarily text-based. Mastodon is in essence a decentralized Twitter. All new social networks seem to be about media other than text. The only text-centric new entry that comes to mind is Substack, but that's not really a social network product. Maybe it's time for a new innovator?
I blocked reddit for a week. I was much more productive and I'm having a hard time thinking of what I missed out on. I told myself it was full of interesting discussions but I basically forgot all of it the second I had closed the tab.