Someone else in this thread mentioned the "boiling frog" effect. Personally, I'll keep using Reddit until they remove support for old.reddit.com. Then this frog is out of the pot!
Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
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Reddit has seemed rudderless for a long time. Their ads platform is damned near useless compared to their competitors. It's a wonder they have any revenue at all. Their moderation is wildly broken, frequently leading to blanket account bans of anyone participating in a thread close to content deemed inappropriate.
> Their moderation is wildly broken, frequently leading to blanket account bans of anyone participating in a thread close to content deemed inappropriate. I reported someone in the news sub. Paraphrasing but apparently reporting someone for saying "they should all burn to death" (talking about govt officials) 1: isn't ban worthy, and 2: is "abuse of the report button" and led to me getting a 3 day ban. I'm out.
You can't report to the moderators, they're just anonymous users that for some reason wants to work for free for Reddit. Often times they have their own agendas, I've used third party sites to show deleted comments that makes it clear some mods support calls for violence against certain groups, depending on which subreddit it is.
I've reported threats of violence similar to what you describes over at https://www.reddit.com/report and they removed it after a day or two, even comments that were highly upvoted.
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#443A party is the people experiencing it. The free red plastic cups of beer and ranch dip and chips are ancillary.
Redditors are now perking their ears for the next person to yell "next party at my house!"
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#444It's probably because their backend sucks as well.
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#445Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question and I don't mean anything negative - Do you consider HN to be social media? Using it as just a news source seems really valid. And it feels different from other social media platforms because of the focus on full discussions. But surely this still counts as social media? Genuinely asking because I see you made your account just to post this comment - why did you do that? It's not a bad thing (I'm her…
> Do you consider HN to be social media? I think this site will get a flood of new users from Reddit once the axe drops. I think this will cause the quality of discussions to go down.
I don't think so, this site is extremely slow compared to any other social media (slow as in not much content). I honestly wouldn't be shocked if hn had a slightly larger audience compared to fark.
I suppose time will tell.
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#446Yeah, I'm out. I'm not using Reddit on its own app nor the browser. The app is huge and clunky. The browser is turtle slow. Neither gives me the granularity that Apollo gives me. The swipe controls are slick and so are the filters. If I can't consume it with Apollo then it ain't worth it to me. And I already paid for the app. I refuse to pay more for something that is not a necessity. Apollo would have to become a su…
Old.reddit.com isn't too bad
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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#447Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question and I don't mean anything negative - Do you consider HN to be social media? Using it as just a news source seems really valid. And it feels different from other social media platforms because of the focus on full discussions. But surely this still counts as social media? Genuinely asking because I see you made your account just to post this comment - why did you do that? It's not a bad thing (I'm her…
> Do you consider HN to be social media? I think this site will get a flood of new users from Reddit once the axe drops. I think this will cause the quality of discussions to go down.
It's already been happening for years.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#448Without a doubt, this is another step in Reddit's demise. It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year, after which I'm certain you'll start seeing more intrusive monetization. The window just opened for someone to develop the replacement. It will rip itself apart over the next few years and all 52 million users will be looking for a new home. Reddit's product is authenticity. Monetization is t…
It's a tragedy, because reddit is the last source of publicly available truth on the internet. I can search for anything with site:reddit.com and see actual human beings' opinions on the matter. All other truth is locked down in unindexed chats, and all other search results are SEO'd AI written articles shilling referral links.
truth
Hah. Reddit "truth" is sold and bought at every level for anything popular enough. It's just the illusion of truth. Your site:reddit.com strategy stopped making sense 2-3 years ago.
I will not be sad when reddit essentially dies in a few years from now. Good riddance.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#449The web went in the wrong direction when we abandoned the initial concepts of user agents, which was that the browser has the ultimate choice of what to render and how. That concept, transferred to today's world of apps would simply mean that any client like Apollo is essentially a browser locked on Reddit's website, parsing HTML (which has the role of an API) and rendering the content in a native interface. As long…
Seems like you could still a meta UI that drives the underlying SPA in a hidden browser but it would be a pain. Maybe a framework for that will be built one day
Seems like we're always missing a fusion of:
1. SPA that you can run on your phone or desktop
2. Centralized User Management, need some way to block known bad actors
3. Signing posts / comments
4. Distribution of posts and comments over DHT?
5. Hosting images, videos and lengthy text posts on torrents
6. A whack ton of content moderation software to somehow make decentralized moderation work.
7. Image recognition for gore / CP that inevitably will get spammed
This would enable people to help host the subreddits they are subscribed to, but murder battery life on mobile unfortunately.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#450Wow, that price is insane. To me, that's pretty clearly a shot at any competitor apps for Reddit. Purely anti-competitive behavior here, which to me is silly. Let other apps pop up to better serve your users. At the end of the day, they are still your users and you might learn things from the other apps. Who ever came up with that price is looking for short-term profits over user happiness and long-term growth.
On the other hand, I think the price is damn steal. If Apollo's numbers are to be believed, Reddit is willing to sell its traffic at ~$2.50/user/month. That's half the value of a pre-Musk Twitter user and a third of the value of a Facebook or video streaming user. So, if you already have a sophisticated ad tech and sales team, you'd be able to pull 50%+ profit margin without having to worry about running the infrastr…
> If Apollo's numbers are to be believed, Reddit is willing to sell its traffic at ~$2.50/user/month.
That's only one side of it though. According to the same post, Reddit's ad revenue is closer to $0.12/user/month. So, they are apparently willing to sell traffic to advertisers for a much much lower price than API users.