Hopefully this accelerates the death of reddit ... I think once they nuke the Google SEO fu they have on questions (they'll screw it up, like Quora did), get rid of NSFW content and kill old.reddit, they're done. That should reduce traffic by a good chunk, and less eyes on their site, less ad money. Ironic, because they think these changes will increase ad money.
Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#412Earlier quoted context omitted.
Old.reddit.com isn't too bad
My prediction as a former i.reddit.com user is: don't get too attached. old.reddit is showing the same issues that i.reddit had, such as redirecting you to "regular" reddit if you click on a title instead of the comments. I think old.reddit will keep accumulating small papercuts like these until enough users give up, at which point it will be shut down without recourse. Reddit can't do this right now because some mod…
> redirecting you to "regular" reddit if you click on a title instead of the comments
Old reddit has been working exactly the same for quite a few years now and I can't remember it ever redirecting me to the new version. Perhaps this happens if you're logged in and have the new version set as default or something?
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#413Earlier quoted context omitted.
Old.reddit.com isn't too bad
My prediction as a former i.reddit.com user is: don't get too attached. old.reddit is showing the same issues that i.reddit had, such as redirecting you to "regular" reddit if you click on a title instead of the comments. I think old.reddit will keep accumulating small papercuts like these until enough users give up, at which point it will be shut down without recourse. Reddit can't do this right now because some mod…
i.reddit.com was great, miss it dearly.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#414Earlier quoted context omitted.
Old.reddit.com isn't too bad
My prediction as a former i.reddit.com user is: don't get too attached. old.reddit is showing the same issues that i.reddit had, such as redirecting you to "regular" reddit if you click on a title instead of the comments. I think old.reddit will keep accumulating small papercuts like these until enough users give up, at which point it will be shut down without recourse. Reddit can't do this right now because some mod…
I would wager most people who are serious about using old.reddit are doing it via extensions, since that approach works even when signed out - so many don't notice e.g that title bug.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#415Without a doubt, this is another step in Reddit's demise. It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year, after which I'm certain you'll start seeing more intrusive monetization. The window just opened for someone to develop the replacement. It will rip itself apart over the next few years and all 52 million users will be looking for a new home. Reddit's product is authenticity. Monetization is t…
> It will really go into freefall when they go public later this year,
I mean the only thing the founders/investors want is to cash out, nothing more. they don't care about what reddit becomes after they IPO.
> Reddit's product is authenticity.
It has not been authentic since Trump's election. It has become a PAC, tangentially something else, but mainly a way to push partisan politics on every single subreddits including the subs that have nothing to do with partisanship.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#416Earlier quoted context omitted.
Old.reddit.com isn't too bad
Yeah. Can nowadays also be toggled in the settings so you don't have to setup any redirect extension. Which makes me hopeful that it might not be going away but I'm not holding my breath. Without old Reddit (and third-party apps on mobile) I'd stop using Reddit completely, I have zero doubts about that.
You still want a redirect extension since that forces it even if you're in, say, an incognito tab. The settings piece will only work if you're signed in.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#417Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is exactly a Reddit admins response, and I can't even begin to process how irresponsible, unprofessional and downright moronic of a take that is. Other apps are around that ballpark, and that's every before considering that Apollo users tend to be heavily power users. Over 7000 moderators of 20k+ users subs for starters, means a lot of requests.
Sorry if you think this take is "moronic" but I've gone through the exercise of cutting back usage on chatty APIs several times and it's real, meaningful work that makes a difference. I'm not a reddit admin. Please try to engage in good faith on this website. I'd suggest reading the "In Comments" section of the hacker news guidelines if you're unsure. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
You implied that no work had already gone into optimizing it with no basis for the assertion. Then you misinterpreted him saying that a Reddit admin made the same response on the thread in question and accused him of bad faith. Maybe you should also take a minute to review the guidelines that you also included in your post.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#418Everyone saying their pricing is absurd had better get ready for the new wave of API pricing.
Like every other industry, there's a growth period where things are new and prices are reasonable, and then there's the "squeeze" where bean counters come in, make charts that are likely bs, and explain how much easier it'd be if we charged 4x as much for half the customer base.
Twitter was one of the first to give access to cheap mass data, and now they're one of the first to charge through the nose for that. The move is going to be that if you're not enterprise level you're not getting this data anymore, and I doubt it stops with reddit.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#419Many people are pointing out that they're going to lose a huge number of users over this, but that seems to be the point of the "cutting" phase of bulking and cutting.
(By bulking and cutting I mean eating a calorie surplus to gain muscle and fat followed by a calorie deficit to reduce fat while hanging on to as much muscle as possible.)
Reddit, Netflix, YouTube... they bulked their user base by subsidizing products. Now they're in the cutting phase and raising prices, restricting features, and/or increasing ads. They know they're going to end up with a significantly smaller user base, but if the cutting manages to maintain a large enough number of profitable users (muscle) while shedding unprofitable users (fat) then the business will end up in better shape.
Alternately one can keep calories stable and slowly increase muscle without gaining fat, but that's much slower and harder than a bulk/cut cycle, and most people and public companies don't have that kind of patience.
Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing
#420Their pricing is just absurd. Reddit's official app and webpage is garbage, and instead of working with amazing developers like Christian to add whatever functionality they need to increase their revenue, they're doubling down on bad decisions and alienating their users. Pure hubris... they've forgotten their own history and why the Digg exodus happened. Seriously, _what_ are they gaining by eliminating access to thi…
> and why the Digg exodus happened
They may suspect they're larger than Digg ever was, and can simply weather that storm.
They may be right, to be honest.