It’s been mostly fine for me, but overall I am tired of every answer having a paragraph long disclaimer about how the world is complex. Yes, I know. Stop treating me like a child.
Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
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You should beware that /lmg/ is full of horrible people, discussing horrible things, like most of 4chan. Reddit's r/locallama is much more agreeable. That said, the 4chan thread tends to be more up-to-date. These guys are serious about their ERP.
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Despite the current culture war meme thing, the kids today in general surely have much thicker skin than other adults did at their age.
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I would immediately jump to an AI not being "aligned" by SF techies (or anyone else).
Same here. If I have a choice between honesty and political correctness, I always pick honesty.
That's not what the finetunig does. You don't get a honest version, just a no-filter version. But it may be no-filter in the same way a drunk guy at the bar is.
Also it's not like the training data itself is unbiased. If the training data happened to contain lots of flat earth texts, would you also want an honest version which applies that concept everywhere? This likely already happens in non-obvious ways.
Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
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When using it all day every day it seems (anecdotally) the API version has changed too. I work with temperature 0 which should have low variability yet recently it shifted to feel boring, wooden, and deflective.
I can understand why they might make changes to ChatGPT, but it seems weird they would "nerf" the API. What would be the incentive for OpenAI to do that?
> What would be the incentive for OpenAI to do that?
Preventing outrage because some answers could be considered rude and/or offensive.
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It's not about honesty vs. political correctness, it is about safety. There's real concern that the model can cause harm to humans, in a variety of ways, which is and should be unethical. If we have to argue about that in 2023, that's concerning.
The "It is for your own safety" argument was already bogus years ago. Bringing it back up in the context of AI and claiming this is something we shouldn't even discuss is a half-assed attempt to shut up critics. Just because something is about "children" or "safety" doesnt automatically end the argument there. Actually, these are mostly strawman arguments.
Who said it was "for your own" and not the safety of others you impact with your AI work?
Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
#346This is why having opensourced models is important. This is also why a lot of the lobbying around wanting regulation is happening. Imagine this, the plebs get the neutered AI, the people at the top get raw Open AI GPT4+
I'm so tired of this "regulations bad" trope. Most of the time, regulations do good. When I was young the Hudson River was a toxic cesspool of chemical filth. Now the river is slowly becoming a habitat again. The EPA does a whole lot of good. If you're afraid of Microsoft reaching its tendrils into OpenAI and corrupting its original purpose, as you probably should be, then maybe you should consider supporting regulat…
Just because they are against AI/ML regulation doesn't mean they are against environmental regulation. The post you're replying to is not saying that all regulation is bad, merely that the lobbying around this specific piece of regulation seems bad. I agree with you that a lot of regulation is good, but I also agree that some of the proposed regulation seems bad too.
Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
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> I personally don't get offended by words, but I guess if you are born after the 2000's perhaps you should avoid it. Ouch
Which is just a way of saying he not part of any of the demographics where going to 4chan to see people froth at the mouth dehumanizing and belittling people like you is self-harm. Wow an edgy white man not offended at seeing racism and transphobia, so brave.
Not him, but I browse it and I’m Jewish.
I’d rather have free speech and see constant posts about holocaust denial and oven jokes and just ignore them
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#348Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
#349Yes it has. I called this a month ago and got flamed for it.
They did something to reduce the server load that impacted the quality in some subtle way.
Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?
#350I swear I can tell it gets notably worse around 15:00 every day as people in America get on and start using it.