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Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #124

The reason it's worse is basically because it's more 'safe' (not racist, etc). That of course sounds insane, and doesn't mean that safety shouldn't be strived for, etc - but there's an explanation as to how this occurs. It occurs because the system essentially does a latent classification of problems into 'acceptable' or 'not acceptable' to respond to. When this is done, a decent amount of information is lost regardi…

GPT 4 Lemongrab Mode: Everything is unacceptable.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a great ride while it lasted. My assumption is that efficacy at coding tasks is such a small percent of users, they’ve just sacrificed it on the altar of efficiency and/or scale. That, or they’ve cut some back room deal with Microsoft to make Copilot have access to the only version of the model that can actually code.

Also the deal to make the browsing model to only use Bing. That's bait and switch. I paid for browsing, and now it only browses Bing. They even had the gall to update the plugin name to Browsing with Bing.

It can definitely browse websites that aren't Bing, I asked it to look at a page that isn't in the bing cache and it worked.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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This is the normal workflow for drug dealers too. The first fix is free. The second one will cost you money. The third one will be laced with fillers and have degraded quality.

If it's not possible to be profitable at their original pricepoint then they should add more pricing tiers, not make the good model inacessible.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try out Bard, it's coding is much improved in the last 2 weeks. I've unfortunately switched over for the time being.

I just tried Bard based on this comment, and it's really, really bad. Can you please help me with how you are prompting it?

If you have to worry about prompting, it already tells you everything one needs to know about how good the model is.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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Yes. Seems to have definitely gone down. Not sure what they have done but even with things it used have no trouble with, it struggles now. Most likely they are experimenting on reducing the compute per request.

I did notice the rate limiting message isn't there anymore when using GPT-4.

I still see the cap message, I'm not sure if it is being enforced or not

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What law prohibits Google from making Bard available outside the USA?

It's blocked in the EU because they don't want to/can't comply with GDPR.

They clearly can with all their other products, as can OpenAI since they've been unblocked. They're just being assholes because they can.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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post #164
post #154

The researchers who worked on the "sparks of AGI" paper noted that the more OpenAI worked on aligning GPT-4 the less competent it became. I'm guessing that trend is continuing...

Ahh, you apparently phrased what I said below in a much less inflamatory way. But the end result is the same. The more they try to influence the answers, the less useful they get. I see a startup model: Create GPT without a muzzle and grab a sizeable chunk of OpenAI userbase.

I would immediately jump to an AI not being "aligned" by SF techies (or anyone else).
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