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This person has the more believable PhD. One of the requirements to getting a PhD is the knowledge that a PhD is not the proof of intelligence you thought it would be when you started. It is better a proof of resilience, patience, and being dead inside.

Man, you guys are tough. Who cares if he has a PhD. Just about any adult who is on HN has enough math skills to count up dice

Thank you for the positive reinforcement, engineer_6+5+4+6+2.

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The Internet as a whole has become very elderly unfriendly. Even the iPhone becomes an unnavigable mess once you’re trying to help someone 70+ work with it. And continually changing UIs definitely don’t help.

My parents are in their late sixties and travel internationally quite often and the lack of a physical SIM slot in new iPhones makes them not want to upgrade devices ever, because it would mean that they'd have to learn a whole new paradigm for installing and using eSIM when they're not very tech literate.

I'm getting older myself and every day this comic becomes more and more pertinent: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/12/12/one-day-in-the...

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“Piracy is a service problem.” - Gabe Newell Also, Arkose Labs CAPTCHA (what HBO Max is using) is awful, please don't use it. There's reCAPTCHA, hCAPTCHA, mCAPTCHA, and now even Cloudflare Turnstile. Or better yet, recognize your costumers can still download the movie for free whether your service exists or not and adapt your strategy to provide them with content easier :)

HBO uses Captcha to prevent bots stealing accounts by brute-forcing passwords/reused passwords from other sites. In other words. It's not anti-piracy mechanism, it's protection against account stealing.

There should be an exemption from the Captcha for users with strong passwords. And if this spreads maybe we can just annoy everyone into good security practices.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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> I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong I also have a PhD in Computer Science and I assure you that the degree does not give me as much blind faith in my math ability

This person has the more believable PhD. One of the requirements to getting a PhD is the knowledge that a PhD is not the proof of intelligence you thought it would be when you started. It is better a proof of resilience, patience, and being dead inside.

Isn't sitting around and saying how smart you are the point of MENSA? Which many people pay money to join.

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I am baffled as to why they had to launch an entirely new app rather than just rename the existing one. Could Apple have made them change the bundle ID? It's like they're putting in deliberate obstacles for existing subscribers.

I’ve been wondering about that too. Then again, some years ago, Spotify forced all users on (I believe) Android to download an entirely new app that was visually completely identical. Login state and downloaded tracks were lost. I still wonder what happened there. Surely that‘s among the worst things you can do from an SEO and customer retention perspectives?

I would not be surprised if in both cases the developer posting the app to the store was using their own account. The company of course did not realize this and proceeded to do something (probably stupid) to make that developer quit and give them the finger on the way out the door. When their managers realized their mistake(s), a new app seems like the inevitable outcome.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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“Piracy is a service problem.” - Gabe Newell Also, Arkose Labs CAPTCHA (what HBO Max is using) is awful, please don't use it. There's reCAPTCHA, hCAPTCHA, mCAPTCHA, and now even Cloudflare Turnstile. Or better yet, recognize your costumers can still download the movie for free whether your service exists or not and adapt your strategy to provide them with content easier :)

HBO uses Captcha to prevent bots stealing accounts by brute-forcing passwords/reused passwords from other sites. In other words. It's not anti-piracy mechanism, it's protection against account stealing.

That's what I don't get. What value is there in such an account? The fear that random persons can watch videos without paying until the owner notices they can't stream because someone else is using the account? Are these accounts held for ransom because the owner doesn't want to lose their watchlist? Can you purchase gift subscriptions using the stored payment method perhaps?

It's a nuisance obviously, but for such a tiny fraction of people, honestly not bad if they notice that they got phished or use a password guessable within a handful of tries.

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Isn't hCaptcha the one that asks you "Click on all of the bicycles" and then shows a bunch of AI-generated gibberish where fucking none of them is a bicycle but you have to click on the ones that are the most bicycle-like? Because that's fucking garbage and I wish everyone using it would die in a fire. In case someone as been lucky enough to never have used hCaptcha, it looks like this: https://twitter.com/shaunkruge…

I don't remember the name, but I've seen a Captcha that asks you stuff like "click on the Zerki", "select the Sploinq" with AI images and I have no idea what shape most looks like a Zerki (there was more than one shape with hard edges!) or a Sploinq. And I have a linguistics minor. :(

hCaptcha has absolutely wanted people to click on objects that do not exist even on a conceptual level.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgwy5n/captcha-is-asking-use...

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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post #157

“Piracy is a service problem.” - Gabe Newell Also, Arkose Labs CAPTCHA (what HBO Max is using) is awful, please don't use it. There's reCAPTCHA, hCAPTCHA, mCAPTCHA, and now even Cloudflare Turnstile. Or better yet, recognize your costumers can still download the movie for free whether your service exists or not and adapt your strategy to provide them with content easier :)

Isn't hCaptcha the one that asks you "Click on all of the bicycles" and then shows a bunch of AI-generated gibberish where fucking none of them is a bicycle but you have to click on the ones that are the most bicycle-like? Because that's fucking garbage and I wish everyone using it would die in a fire. In case someone as been lucky enough to never have used hCaptcha, it looks like this: https://twitter.com/shaunkruge…

Still better than the google malware that lets you through based on how well they can track you around the web rather than based on a legitimately solvable challenge. At least, I noticed that I never saw anyone but myself getting any challenge at all, let alone the worst CAPTCHAs that google has to offer. Same IP address, the only difference that I could find is not having "auto delete cookies" installed in the browser (wipes localstorage etc. after you closed all tabs of non-whitelisted sites for some seconds).

hCAPTCHA has always been easily solvable for me, haven't seen the one you linked yet but that also looks quite trivial

Ideally one just doesn't use CAPTCHAs at all, but my colleagues disagree and so that's unfortunately the company policy to recommend against login brute force and such

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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HBO uses Captcha to prevent bots stealing accounts by brute-forcing passwords/reused passwords from other sites. In other words. It's not anti-piracy mechanism, it's protection against account stealing.

There should be an exemption from the Captcha for users with strong passwords. And if this spreads maybe we can just annoy everyone into good security practices.

Strong password is still bad if you reuse it on a website with a leaked DB.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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post #306

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HBO uses Captcha to prevent bots stealing accounts by brute-forcing passwords/reused passwords from other sites. In other words. It's not anti-piracy mechanism, it's protection against account stealing.

That's what I don't get. What value is there in such an account? The fear that random persons can watch videos without paying until the owner notices they can't stream because someone else is using the account? Are these accounts held for ransom because the owner doesn't want to lose their watchlist? Can you purchase gift subscriptions using the stored payment method perhaps? It's a nuisance obviously, but for such a…

I think they are resold on darknet or something.
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