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Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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This is going to be one of the best parts of the new AI-ridden world: humans gradually getting locked out of and giving up on online services because the bots are more patient and more skilled at proving their humanness than humans are. Twitter’s new captchas are also pretty insane, though not quite this bad last I ran into them.

Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Who's actually working on this and has released papers I can study? Because all this AI nonsense will only accelerate us towards this total control…

A digital wallet tied to a real, authenticated identity should be a solution. You can sign any login and confirm that it is indeed you, a real person, logging in.

Unfortunately crypto folks are too busy selling shitcoins and scams to build this product.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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You know one service which has never stopped being reliable, easily available, high quality, and free to use? Piracy.

After 6gb download: loLz666.txt: For the unlock password visit (somesite.ru/blah) and fill in 3 surveys.

After download starts, you can go to the metadata section and view files list.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

I have a BS in Computer Science and I can't do basic math reliably... 3+4? About 10. Is that something they teach in grad school?

The more maths you know the less you can do calculations...

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Until it works with noscript/basic (x)html browsers, fine by me (static HTML and ).

But how would you detect click farms with real humans via VPNs or compromised devices?

Not to mention AI, trained by those very click farms which may ramp up significantly the issue.

If a "valid" credit card or a wallet code is provided at account creation, a lot can filtered out (unicity, funds availability, etc).

Actually, there are so many ways to deal with that better than how it is currently done, I would have troubles to know where to start.

It is all about the skills of the people put in charge.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Not saying these are good, but it's been ~10 years and I still have no idea what I'm supposed to click when Google says "click the traffic lights." Just the light sections? What about the edge that takes up 10% of the adjoining box? What about the back or side of a different traffic light? I've tried them all, and my success rate doesn't noticeably change.

It's mostly trained on the answer of other humans. The best advice is literally "just be yourself, be human." I had some fun poisoning the well on the older text based captchas by answering the first word correctly and putting "penis" where the last word would go. It always accepted it for some reason.

The reason is that those captchas were helping to OCR-transcribe books. The first word would be known to the system and serve as the actual verification, and the second word would be unknown and serve as you performing free MTurk work.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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“Piracy is a service problem.” - Gabe Newell Also, Arkose Labs CAPTCHA (what HBO Max is using) is awful, please don't use it. There's reCAPTCHA, hCAPTCHA, mCAPTCHA, and now even Cloudflare Turnstile. Or better yet, recognize your costumers can still download the movie for free whether your service exists or not and adapt your strategy to provide them with content easier :)

Isn't hCaptcha the one that asks you "Click on all of the bicycles" and then shows a bunch of AI-generated gibberish where fucking none of them is a bicycle but you have to click on the ones that are the most bicycle-like? Because that's fucking garbage and I wish everyone using it would die in a fire. In case someone as been lucky enough to never have used hCaptcha, it looks like this: https://twitter.com/shaunkruge…

I don't remember the name, but I've seen a Captcha that asks you stuff like "click on the Zerki", "select the Sploinq" with AI images and I have no idea what shape most looks like a Zerki (there was more than one shape with hard edges!) or a Sploinq. And I have a linguistics minor. :(

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Rewriting doesn't require a new listing on really any of these platforms. They could have rewritten every single thing and still made it an update. I'm guessing there was some contractual thing (perhaps cable related) around the HBO name or else someone made a very poor choice.

Yep. Probably liscensing and future merger related. “The current plan is to unify the HBO Max service and the Discovery+ service under a single brand” https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/hbo-max-discovery-plus-m...

The entire thing reeks of bad decisions.

The new CEO from the Discovery side of the merger cancelled a bunch of HBO Max programming that was doing well, because their background is in cheaper to produce reality content. It seems fated to join the very long list of bad media mergers.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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> Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? > We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human.' I'm extremely hesitant to give any State the ability to track an individual user's online activity that intensely. It's been extensively docum…

> I'm extremely hesitant to give any State the ability to track an individual user's online activity that intensely. The U.K. government developed something called GOV.UK Verify for exactly this. It’s sort of like OAuth via a stateless gateway I think. The promise is that the entity doing the auth doesn’t know what you’re using it for, and the entity receiving the auth doesn’t know how you proved auth and only gets t…

I once suggested to a PM from the GOV.UK Verify team that if the UK wants to do age verification for porn, which it has threatened many times over the last decade, that Verify would be the perfect tech for it as content sites would only find out you're over 18, and auth providers would only know they're proving basic details about you.

The PM did not like the idea of the government being the porn passport for the whole country.

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