maybe just brush your teeth
Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
#222Twenty years ago, I moved from Michigan (a state that uses fluoride) to Mississippi (a state that doesn't use fluoride). My dentist at the time told me that I was going to end up with tooth decay if I stayed down there for more than a few years. Sure enough, five years later I moved back to Michigan and ended up with a cavity in an unusual place. My (new) dentist in Michigan was completely unsurprised. He said there…
> No decent dentist would ever work in Mississippi.
This sounds like some elitist BS.
Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
>No credible scientific evidence exists that ingesting fluoride is beneficial. ??? >Regular toothbrushing with fluoride toothpaste is the principal non‐professional intervention to prevent caries, but the caries‐preventive effect varies according to different concentrations of fluoride in toothpaste, with higher concentrations associated with increased caries control. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6398…
Caveat that I have no issue whatsoever with fluoride. The parent poster said "ingestion" of fluoride, but brushing is strictly not ingestion but rather topical application - you are directed to spit it back out. I'm curious if there were studies that covered drinking it.
The amount is calibrated for the small part that you ingest despite spittingit out. Kids toothpaste have much less because most of the paste is assumed to be ingested.
Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
#224Adding fluoride to water has always seemed weird to me, since you can't control for how much water someone is drinking or account for different bodily factors like age and weight. I wonder why the European solution of adding it to salt isn't the default, especially given that iodized salt is already so popular and commonplace. As a general rule of thumb, I think it's interesting to scrutinize dosage recommendations a…
EU citizen here, they're not putting it in salt here, but in toothpaste.
Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, fluoride must not be added to any food or beverage, because it provides no benefits whatsoever when ingested. Fluoride is beneficial only when applied externally on the dental enamel, so that the fluoride ions will passively substitute the hydroxide ions. There is no known biological process that uses actively fluoride in the human body and excessive ingested fluoride has bad effects, e.g. bone damage. Therefore…
Some people lack the self control to use toothpaste regularly. For those people it's beneficial adding flouride to water.
This has to be satire. What sort of incredible self control does something like this require? Where does it end?
Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, fluoride must not be added to any food or beverage, because it provides no benefits whatsoever when ingested. Fluoride is beneficial only when applied externally on the dental enamel, so that the fluoride ions will passively substitute the hydroxide ions. There is no known biological process that uses actively fluoride in the human body and excessive ingested fluoride has bad effects, e.g. bone damage. Therefore…
Some people lack the self control to use toothpaste regularly. For those people it's beneficial adding flouride to water.
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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
#227There are significant lobbies now trying to put both statins and lithium into the tap water.
My vote is for LSD.
Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
#228Adding fluoride to water has always seemed weird to me, since you can't control for how much water someone is drinking or account for different bodily factors like age and weight. I wonder why the European solution of adding it to salt isn't the default, especially given that iodized salt is already so popular and commonplace. As a general rule of thumb, I think it's interesting to scrutinize dosage recommendations a…
EU citizen here, they're not putting it in salt here, but in toothpaste.
He's probably confusing it with iodide.
Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
#229So we know that there is definitely little benefit from ingesting fluoride, and also that we can not rule out negative effects from ingesting fluoride. This seems like... a bit of a big deal?
There are lots of "big deals" in the environment that we silently tolerate -- things which studies conclusively and repeatedly show are substantially detrimental:
* Roadside air pollution
* Lead pipes
* Indoor CO2 buildup
Studies relating to flouride are nowhere near as conclusive and show nowhere near the same magnitude of effect. If flouride is contributing negatively in a similar way, it's doing so to such a small extent that it very nearly falls within the margin of error. Anyone genuinely worried about flouride should consider double-checking that they've already taken more meaningful action regarding their health, such as going on a walk, getting a full night's rest, or opening a window.
Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm
#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
My guess it easier to buy different salt but hard to get second water pipe.
>A Reverse Osmosis (RO) system can remove 85-92%* of fluoride in your water. https://www.paragonwater.com/does-reverse-osmosis-remove-flu...
RO systems waste something like three gallons for every usable gallon they produce.