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Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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So we know that there is definitely little benefit from ingesting fluoride, and also that we can not rule out negative effects from ingesting fluoride. This seems like... a bit of a big deal?

Not from ingestion, but exposing the enamel periodically during the day to fluoride and having trace amounts of it on your saliva supports remineralisation.

I would think it's pretty much impossible to have it in your mouth and not ingest any of it.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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So we know that there is definitely little benefit from ingesting fluoride, and also that we can not rule out negative effects from ingesting fluoride. This seems like... a bit of a big deal?

It's been known for awhile, but you'd get labelled as a conspiracy theorist for any mention of it.

It goes all the way back to Dr. Strangelove at least. There's a whole bit in there about it.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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There are significant lobbies now trying to put both statins and lithium into the tap water.

Statins on a wide scale could make for the single greatest life expectancy increase we could get anywhere...that would be awesome.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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So we know that there is definitely little benefit from ingesting fluoride, and also that we can not rule out negative effects from ingesting fluoride. This seems like... a bit of a big deal?

The harmful dose is many orders of magnitude higher than the concentration in tap water. Dose makes the poison. Literally any chemical in sufficient dose is poisonous

Tooth decay is caused by acid produced by bacteria.

It's too bad we can't displace the bacteria themselves instead of working downstream from that.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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So we know that there is definitely little benefit from ingesting fluoride, and also that we can not rule out negative effects from ingesting fluoride. This seems like... a bit of a big deal?

The harmful dose is many orders of magnitude higher than the concentration in tap water. Dose makes the poison. Literally any chemical in sufficient dose is poisonous

Actually, the article says the report says harm happens at 2x the current recommended fluoridation level.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not OP or american, but i can comment. >1,500ppm concentration of fluoride is prescription only (so you either pay for a pointless dentist visit or get it on the grey market), despite being safe and much more effective at remineralisation. There are also experimental ingredients such as nanohydroxyapatite and Novamin which are difficult to find on the american market due to the FDA

Novamin used to be available via Sensodyne Pronamel in Canada. I was surprised to see that at some point it disappeared from our market - no longer able to buy at any grocery store or pharmacy or on Amazon, whereas it used to be available in all of these places.

It's still available, look for "Sensodyne Repair and Protect" (no other name). Shoppers Drug Mart has it, Superstore, Walmart, etc. Most everywhere. We also have other options here with nanohydroxyapatite that are easy to get too, from X-Pur to Davids Toothpaste. Those products tend to be more expensive though due to higher %, whereas Sensodyne tops out at 5% Novamin.

Also as a Canadian you should avoid Amazon for groceries and most hygiene goods, they're overpriced even compared to Shoppers Drug Mart most of the time, half of the time the goods aren't even offered by the company but instead by a random middleman charging absurd markup.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not from ingestion, but exposing the enamel periodically during the day to fluoride and having trace amounts of it on your saliva supports remineralisation.

I would think it's pretty much impossible to have it in your mouth and not ingest any of it.

Sure, but to achieve equal remineralization, you'll likely end up ingesting orders of magnitude more fluoride when delivered via drinking water vs toothpaste.
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