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Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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I avoid driving anywhere near Tesla’s, especially tailing them. Phantom braking is not okay.

Any car with regenerative braking is obnoxious, by federal law they aren't required to flash the brake lights when decelerating, ONLY when they're applying the physical brake and not when the car is regenerating, etc.

This is not true for the EU.

> 0,7 m/s² and ≤ 1,3 m/s² The signal may be generated. > 1,3 m/s² The signal shall be generated.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2015/2364/oj

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Hardly, Starlink has had some impact on Ukraine but not nearly that much. They have called it “critical” but they call a great many things critical, the actual use of Starlink still isn’t that common. The important bit for Ukrainian is Starlink is subsidized by other countries and it reduces the incentives for Russia to destroy communication infrastructure. Unfortunately because Russia is focusing less on communicati…

People following this closely disagree.

A few of those people do, but it’s a minority opinion.

People say same seriously crazy shit about the Ukraine war, but the ground truth is fairly pedestrian as far as recent wars go.

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I'll go a bit further... Do we really need computers on four wheels? Can't we just have simple electric vehicles without all the high-tech? No distracting screens, no computer for other than just governing the electric engine, no fancy car locks, and so on. I don't understand why we need to put so much technology in a vehicle. Honestly, it seems to me that is absolutely unnecessary tech, ridiculous. I'd like to have…

You could just convert a car from 20 years ago if you are that passionate about it? Kite abound.

Kits abound, rather.

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“ Tesla had a head start on electric, but they could not take advantage of this. Once other manufacturers woke up to the threat, it became clear Tesla has nothing on them, and car industry is fiercely competitive.” Is there any other car company in the world selling electric vehicles at a profit besides Tesla? Everyone else is losing money on their EVs most are losing a lot of money. Not only is Tesla profitable but…

If you are looking to buy a car in 2023 and you are not looking at a model y or a model 3… Tesla is the only car to drop prices in 2023, and the only car that doesn’t feel like you are paying 50% more for whatever you got 3 years ago. Anything else at the 40-50k usd range is simply a joke compared to model y, and Tesla is simply eating the market right now.

Nah Tesla is just goosing the government subsidies hard. The ioniq5 is a great car just doesn’t qualify for inflation increase act subsidies

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Did you look at the diesel emission scandal Wiki page? Everyone was 'cheating'; VW was a mid-level 'cheater' which took the brunt of the heat for it.

Everyone was 'cheating'; VW was a mid-level 'cheater' "But, mom! Everyone is doing it!" cried the 12-year-old. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I mean yes, that's just judicial precedent

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I treat them like the safest cars to be around. Because statistically, they are?

Citation needed, Musk’s tweet doesn’t qualify.

Hope this link posted further down the thread does qualify though.

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/tesla/model+y/46618

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My point was Elon has an incredible track record of success which follows a formula of overhype, delays, and eventual achievement if not overachievement. You seem to have a more personal vendetta against him, I’m just looking at his insane success and envying hype/ management style

SpaceX has been quite successful, though it also came really close to failing. Solar city actually failed as an independent company. Boring company is floundering. Twitter is having massive issues. I think he’s done more harm to Tesla after taking it over from the original founders than been a benefit. It’s unclear but he definitely took massive risks which were unnecessary and has many serious failures such as how l…

> has many serious failures such as how long their truck has slipped.

i wouldn't call the cybertruck a true failure, since it's effectively free marketing, and they don't have a real obligation to make a sale.

Tesla's massive competitive moat is their battery making capacity. I do not believe the incumbent car manufacturers are able to catch up any time soon.

It would be the chinese manufacturers of electric cars that pose the biggest threat to tesla, not the US/western incumbents.

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My point was Elon has an incredible track record of success which follows a formula of overhype, delays, and eventual achievement if not overachievement. You seem to have a more personal vendetta against him, I’m just looking at his insane success and envying hype/ management style

SpaceX has been quite successful, though it also came really close to failing. Solar city actually failed as an independent company. Boring company is floundering. Twitter is having massive issues. I think he’s done more harm to Tesla after taking it over from the original founders than been a benefit. It’s unclear but he definitely took massive risks which were unnecessary and has many serious failures such as how l…

> I think he’s done more harm to Tesla after taking it over from the original founders than been a benefit.

Didn't every single product launch happen after the takeover? We probably would have never heard of the company otherwise, why would we assume a similar trajectory with different leadership? It's like saying Jobs did more harm than good after returning to Apple.

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And is bought by people that think the company is valuable enough to give the stock said value. You can argue that those people are wrong, sure, but I don't get what point you're trying to make. He isn't taking money away from someone else or being given "underserved" rewards, when the people that are keeping the value of what he receives believes it to be of such value.

Point is that you first sign off the effing self-driving car, then you get your effing money. That is what we used to do in America, since the days of JD Rockefeller, Henry Ford...but also Steve Jobs and Bill Gates and Larry Ellison. I mean I used Windows before Gates became richest man in the world and so did hundreds of millions of people. Musk got to #1 by selling go karts to a handful of rich people and promises…

so what do you propose is to be done? you simply stop people from buying tesla stock so that the price doesn't go up and he doesn't get as much money? Seriously i'm really struggling to understand what you are proposing here.

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Elons point on cars being worth 5x as much with self driving shouldn’t be dismissed. If a car that costs $25,000 to manufacture all of a sudden can be driven 40-50 hours a week automatically, how much is that car now worth? So I totally disagree on that end, as do most investors given teslas enormous valuation.

Elon doesn't actually believe that Tesla cars are about to quintuple in value now, any more than he did 7+ years ago when he first started saying it; that's just marketing BS. > So I totally disagree on that end, as do most investors given teslas enormous valuation. Yes, and most Gamestop investors think the company is going to be the next Amazon. Buying a popular meme stock doesn't make their predictions right.

> Buying a popular meme stock

I don’t know that I would connote “meme stock” and “Tesla”

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