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Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Post by MauroIksem »

joshspankit wrote: post #367

Is it just me, or are these numbers almost low enough to be labelled positive PR? > The Tesla files contain more than 2,400 self-acceleration complaints and more than 1,500 braking function problems, including 139 cases of unintentional emergency braking and 383 reported phantom stops resulting from false collision warnings. The number of crashes is more than 1000. A table of incidents involving driver assistance sys…

People are just not reporting them. My model 3 does something scary at least a few times a month but I've never reported any.

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Post by pertsix »

joshspankit wrote: post #367

Is it just me, or are these numbers almost low enough to be labelled positive PR? > The Tesla files contain more than 2,400 self-acceleration complaints and more than 1,500 braking function problems, including 139 cases of unintentional emergency braking and 383 reported phantom stops resulting from false collision warnings. The number of crashes is more than 1000. A table of incidents involving driver assistance sys…

It’s not the burden of society to prove the dangers of the technology we purchase on behalf of the businesses that sell it.

We recall consumer products for danger well below the numbers reported in the article above. A vehicle on the road should be held to an even higher standard.

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Post by somehnguy »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #372
asdff wrote: post #141

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How expensive is LIDAR even? My xiaomi vacuum has LIDAR.

Can your vacuum see 300 meters away and plan how to clean the east wing of your estate?

Mine most likely can’t see 300 meters, but it definitely knows where it is and plans it route, optimizing over time. It’s kinda neat to pick it up in the middle of vacuuming, move it to a different room, then set it back down and watch it go back to where it left off.

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

throwawayadvsec wrote: post #375
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #351

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> My point was Elon has an incredible track record of success which follows a formula of overhype, delays, and eventual achievement if not overachievement. His biggest success is the rocket industry. Let's examine top competitors - corrupt ULA which flies rockets on 50 year old engines and does cost+ contracts, his other competitor was Russia, a corrupt kleptocracy that stopped innovating when USSR fell apart. Russia…

If someone built a dozen companies, and like a third of them succeeded and made him one of (if not the) richest man in the world, I think you could say that that person "has an incredible track record of success" and I don't even like this guy, but this is just dishonest from you

What was successful after Tesla and SpaceX?

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Post by CamperBob2 »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #363
CamperBob2 wrote: post #283

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That's not the right question to ask. The right question to ask is, "Can self-driving tech kill fewer than 30,000 people a year, as humans do now?" If you kill the R&D goose or smother it in overregulation, more people will die.

Or if the R&D phase kills so many people the public loses faith in the whole idea ... then you get to wait a generation for people to forget

Why don't we see if anything like that happens before just assuming it will? The precautionary principle is a recipe for eternal stagnation.

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Post by tsuujin »

JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #311
TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #282

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And he’s admitted self driving was way more difficult than anyone realized, so his dream is gonna be delayed 5-10 years like most of his other major ones. It’s now 2013, want to see a video of Starship taking off?

> > And he’s admitted self driving was way more difficult than anyone realized, Sure and the guy is getting paid right now in cold hard cash, while all the synchopants keep ranting about hopes and dreams. As Jack Nicholson said in 'the Departed' and I quote : "What we generally do - in this country... is one guy brings the items and the other guy pays him. No tickee, no laundry!" First the self-driving car for all Am…

Do you mean “sycophants” or is “synchopants” a new word I’m not trendy enough to know yet?

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Post by gibspaulding »

Prickle wrote: post #390
liendolucas wrote: post #196

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I'll go a bit further... Do we really need computers on four wheels? Can't we just have simple electric vehicles without all the high-tech? No distracting screens, no computer for other than just governing the electric engine, no fancy car locks, and so on. I don't understand why we need to put so much technology in a vehicle. Honestly, it seems to me that is absolutely unnecessary tech, ridiculous. I'd like to have…

A part of me really wants those spinny window cranks back. Highly prefer those funny things over electric windows. Touchscreens on cars need to die out, preferably quickly.

Just bought an old truck with crank windows and manual locks. They're still as wonderful as you remember:)

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Post by kalleboo »

bentley wrote: post #358
epolanski wrote: post #288

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Navigators have been in cars two decades at this point.

And they are universally poorer quality than the default navigation apps on phones.

The software in the navigation in my car is miles ahead of Apple Maps.

The problem is they charge $300 for a maps update.

For that $300 I can just pay for a third party maps app that has the same features.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

jdminhbg wrote: post #379
Fatnino wrote: post #285

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The flashy tech bells and whistles are there to compensate for the inherent problems with electric cars. They lag in range compared to gas cars, and get absolutely trounced when it comes to putting energy back in the car. Concrete example: this week I had to drive some people between San Jose and Hollywood. Google maps says that's 5:40 hours over 340 miles. I looked at renting a model 3 for the trip but it simply cou…

That’s a fun niche use case but most people just drive to work and school and back every weekday. Having to stop for 20-40 minutes on the odd occasion that you need to drive 340 miles in a day is worth never having to stop for gas for your daily commute.

yeah 90% of the time range does not matter for me, 10% is slightly annoying… good enough for me

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Post by abletonlive »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #351
TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #335

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My point was Elon has an incredible track record of success which follows a formula of overhype, delays, and eventual achievement if not overachievement. You seem to have a more personal vendetta against him, I’m just looking at his insane success and envying hype/ management style

> My point was Elon has an incredible track record of success which follows a formula of overhype, delays, and eventual achievement if not overachievement. His biggest success is the rocket industry. Let's examine top competitors - corrupt ULA which flies rockets on 50 year old engines and does cost+ contracts, his other competitor was Russia, a corrupt kleptocracy that stopped innovating when USSR fell apart. Russia…

Your bias against elon is showing and it's not a good look. You're not being very rational.
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