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Chinese Businesses Fueling the Fentanyl Epidemic Receive Millions in Crypto

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> the United States is not, nor has ever been, a part of the British Empire. The United States, shortly before calling itself the United Colonies, and shortly before that calling itself the Continental Association was formed as a group of colonies in British North America with common grievances against the government in London that it initially directed to the King within, and backed by an embargo against much of the…

> Which is to say that while it didn’t change its name to the United States until it had decided to exit the Empire ... Hence my explicit use of United States, as it came to be after the colonies were no longer. Virtually all of the people who remained were previously British subjects, of course. But designations before a nation exists are moot for those whom subsequently are a part of said nation. Regarding the Opiu…

We know what you think you are doing but it's as dumb as a criminal believing that changing their name exculpates them from their past crimes. New name, different person right?

> Two wrongs do not make a right.

Punishments without cause is called a wrong, punishment with cause is called justice... or karma in the casual sense.

The US is what happens when you cream off the religious nutcases from the British Empire, put the greediest in charge and found a new Empire based on conquest, genocide and chattel slavery. Plenty of justice waiting for America.

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post #91

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> Which is to say that while it didn’t change its name to the United States until it had decided to exit the Empire ... Hence my explicit use of United States, as it came to be after the colonies were no longer. Virtually all of the people who remained were previously British subjects, of course. But designations before a nation exists are moot for those whom subsequently are a part of said nation. Regarding the Opiu…

We know what you think you are doing but it's as dumb as a criminal believing that changing their name exculpates them from their past crimes. New name, different person right? > Two wrongs do not make a right. Punishments without cause is called a wrong, punishment with cause is called justice... or karma in the casual sense. The US is what happens when you cream off the religious nutcases from the British Empire, p…

I wonder how much of America today is actually descended from these "religious nutcases", is it not a nation of immigrants? I think its interesting that you think surreptitiously poisoning a population could be considered justice for crimes that population did not commit. Very spicy take though, me me likey.

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China doesn't hate the US. Where did you see the hate? It also doesn't love Russia... I'm confused. Also the Korean War happened. American bullets chopping up thousands of Chinese... it happened.

McArthur also wanted to nuke Manchuria and poison the ground from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea with radioactive cobalt to create a DMZ which the enemy could not cross. He was relieved by President Truman. https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/douglas-macarthur-atomic-b...

Russia wanted nuke china back to stone age, it probably made it had US not helped to stop it. history is full of "wanted"s

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read true history how Korea war started. and no, USA army did not enter China, they were surprised to be ambushed by Chinese soldiers there out from nowhere, then both started killing. china "volunteered" to start killing Americans first in Korea and USA never even entered china.

Why was the USA Army in Korea? I didn't say who started it, nor is that really important, but there was the claim US had never done anything to China... it's not true.

why,who started is crucial to any war. also,china sent troops to Korea many times over history to fight why was it in korea again and again?

and here is how the war started:

https://www.history.com/news/korean-war-causes-us-involvemen...

historically countries all had conflicts and wars, if that's where you're going for "USA did something to China", you can list what they exactly did. While you do that, please do not forget, Chinese killed each other over history and it's probably 1 million times more than whatever the western alliance did together. Not an excuse for any sides, history is just sad and bloody, but focusing on blaming other countries is barking the wrong tree, for the most part.

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This is a phenomenal showcase for the utter failure of the war on drugs. Regulate it, tax it, ensure folks can safely use, and help them stop using when they're ready.

People who say tax it and regulate it have no idea about drugs. Most people are getting drug addictis bcz of painkillers which have been regulated and taxed.

If you make drugs illegal you have a health problem and a criminal problem.

If you regulate it and make it legal, you only have a health problem.

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It's been going on since at least 2010

It was worse before America threatens to cut off China’s preferential mail parcel treatment. They used to just drop it off in the mail directly to the USA, now they have to go through Mexico at least.

Yep. Used to be really easy to buy hundreds of grams to kilos of fentanyl straight from China. There were some problems with cross contamination/mislabeling/wrong shipment that caused some unintentional ODs. Can probably find posts about it on old Bluelight threads

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Showcase the hardcore users to scare kids straight.

> hardcore users to scare kids straight Evidence shows these tactics being between ineffective [1] and backfiring splendidly [2]. It did in my peer group. Because you see a friend smoke a blunt or do a line and, lo and behold, their teeth don’t fall out. That crisis of credibility then corrodes the entire message. Fact-based messaging together with testing to ensure purity makes more sense than Puritanical fear monge…

We're closer in thinking than my quick sentence suggests. Some facts are a bit ruder than others.

We have long had perfectly functional alcohol, cannabis, MDMA, cocaine, LSD, mushroom, ketamine, and amphetamine users. There are good guidelines for how to safely use these and stay out of trouble.

Fentanyl, well, the folks lying in the gutter or folded over in their wheelchairs in SF at night are sort of a warning. And on the purity testing, well, it's a PITA to need to test so many things for the absence of added fentanyl.

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Fentanyl is super cheap, thanks to mass production, pills are like somewhere around $25-50, fentanyl laced meth is as cheap as $5? I don’t think any legal alternative would hit that price point, the cheapness would still drive demand if something else isn’t done.

How much does a fentanyl laced Coca-cola cost at 7-11? I'd wage that the civil liability would be extremely high for all involved, even if it were legal.

Ya, a lot of product being sold illicitly has no change of being sold over the table given the horrible liability. Drug dealers can afford to lose a few customers, a corporation can't (at least not without losing lots of money over it).
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