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I lived in south Florida for years before coming out to San Francisco. Working in IT down there was horrible. I will guarantee they aren't paying more than $35k-$40k per year. Here in SF I make nearly 3x as much as before doing the job they are advertising.
So what is the rate offered? I admit the attitude is a bit high brow, but he may have an extremely valid point.
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Good catch. Perhaps this article should be retitled, "How to Not Show Class when you are Recruiting."
Perhaps, or possibly "How discourage self-entitled leeches from applying to your company".
PS. It just hit me after staring at this post for a minute that leaches isn't even the right spelling. Wow, I need coffee.
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Perhaps, or possibly "How discourage self-entitled leeches from applying to your company".
I don't see how you can label people looking for jobs to be leeches. PS. It just hit me after staring at this post for a minute that leaches isn't even the right spelling. Wow, I need coffee.
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If my potential employer has a problem with money being my motivation, scratch my name from the interview list. IF I really wanted to work for slave wages, there is a McDonalds on every street corner
To be clear: We don't care if money is your motivation, it is ours as well, we simply don't want money to be your ONLY motivation.
Wait, no, see they (I'm assuming it's you now) didn't. They didn't explain why it is they offer something beyond money as an incentive to work for them. They don't talk about their passion, office situation, their work ethic, or what it is they're working on.
The job posting itself was just bland and generic, akin to the kind of cattle call you find on craigslist. It sounds more like the LeadLog is the one exhibiting self-entitlement here. How dare they get people that only cares about being paid!
In a healthy company a lot of value is created. Therefore, there should be plenty money for salaries. So, simply, if salaries are low the company isn't generating enough value or the bosses are cheap. How is that a good thing? Of course, in a startup you can't have everything - but that doesn't change the fact that in startups the employees often share a great deal of the risk (in opportunity cost) and don't get rewa…
Right, I suppose I should have been more candid. We are in the final stages of the development of the product. So there is no revenue; we're paying market (45-60k) plus options, but we're not ready to just dish that out to anyone. It's kind of like finding a girlfriend. If you're filthy rich (and its obvious) than the playing field becomes uneven. We want people who are motivated by long-term opportunity, not taking…
About the end justifying the means: Scaring off people you don't want to hire in the first place is easy. The problem is that by doing so, you're bound to give off bad vibes to people who would otherwise consider your company. Bear in mind that the people you want to hire are -by definition- in high demand. That means that they can (and should) demand a lot from you.
Just like in dating, people need only one reason to dismiss you as a qualified employer/so. Don't give them that reason.
I agree he was obnoxious in his email, but the "We’ll take care of you ... trust me" response doesn't inspire a ton of confidence, sorry. Surely this is what stock options are for?
Now, the dude who wrote the cover letter doesn't seem all that stupid to me. Sure, the writing isn't great, but for all you know English is his second language. I'm not so sure about his hacking skills, though (CSS?). I'd still interview him.
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To be clear: We don't care if money is your motivation, it is ours as well, we simply don't want money to be your ONLY motivation.
From looking at their job posting and their website it sure gave me a good impression of how great they are... Wait, no, see they (I'm assuming it's you now) didn't. They didn't explain why it is they offer something beyond money as an incentive to work for them. They don't talk about their passion, office situation, their work ethic, or what it is they're working on. The job posting itself was just bland and generic…
I suppose we are generic in the job posting (I really appreciate the feedback) and again, as I stated, we're trying to find someone who is looking for more than just money, someone looking for place to work where they fit in and feel at home.
If you were trying to meet a decent girl with values, would you go around waving $100 bills and wearing diamond pendants?
We're not trying to flash around our new funding and put emphasis on our fancy office and wii and ping pong table and couch and full kitchen. We're trying to find someone who would be looking at this as an opportunity, someone with ambition and not just a need for an inflated paycheck until the start up dies.
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I don't see how you can label people looking for jobs to be leeches. PS. It just hit me after staring at this post for a minute that leaches isn't even the right spelling. Wow, I need coffee.
Please see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=360681
Edit: It just hit me that I copied Alaska Miller's spelling. I need pizza.
In a healthy company a lot of value is created. Therefore, there should be plenty money for salaries. So, simply, if salaries are low the company isn't generating enough value or the bosses are cheap. How is that a good thing? Of course, in a startup you can't have everything - but that doesn't change the fact that in startups the employees often share a great deal of the risk (in opportunity cost) and don't get rewa…
Right, I suppose I should have been more candid. We are in the final stages of the development of the product. So there is no revenue; we're paying market (45-60k) plus options, but we're not ready to just dish that out to anyone. It's kind of like finding a girlfriend. If you're filthy rich (and its obvious) than the playing field becomes uneven. We want people who are motivated by long-term opportunity, not taking…