Granted, this guy's cover letter is not going to win him the job. But "Send us your resume! We'll post it on our web site and make fun of it! And your grammar, even though ours is not completely correct either!" is not going to win this company applicants, either.
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#12So what is the rate offered? I admit the attitude is a bit high brow, but he may have an extremely valid point.
Maybe, but he sounds self-entitled. Those are the worst type of people. I don't like either of the attitudes in the post. I would never work for the poster and I would never hire the applicant.
If my potential employer has a problem with money being my motivation, scratch my name from the interview list. IF I really wanted to work for slave wages, there is a McDonalds on every street corner
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#13I agree he was obnoxious in his email, but the "We’ll take care of you ... trust me" response doesn't inspire a ton of confidence, sorry. Surely this is what stock options are for?
That is absolutely correct.
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#14I lived in south Florida for years before coming out to San Francisco. Working in IT down there was horrible. I will guarantee they aren't paying more than $35k-$40k per year. Here in SF I make nearly 3x as much as before doing the job they are advertising.
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#15Paying people what they used to get paid +1 is such a yes-man brigade. "Oh so & so gave you that, we should do that too". I understand why companies do it, but there has to be a better way. More incentives? More equity? Back end performance driven pay? One data point does not equal market rate. And other factors: work hours, environment, benefits, perks, etc are just as important. Has anyone else dealt with this at t…
It's a good rule of thumb. If I'm going to work for less what I'm getting now, there should be a well articulated reason for it.
Now, that might be that I'm currently overpaid, but still looking to leave my job, or that the job is very very cool, or that I'm getting stock options that I'm really confident in - and of course, if I'm relocating to an area with a significantly different cost of living.
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#16Granted, this guy's cover letter is not going to win him the job. But "Send us your resume! We'll post it on our web site and make fun of it! And your grammar, even though ours is not completely correct either!" is not going to win this company applicants, either.
Good catch. Perhaps this article should be retitled, "How to Not Show Class when you are Recruiting."
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#17In a healthy company a lot of value is created. Therefore, there should be plenty money for salaries. So, simply, if salaries are low the company isn't generating enough value or the bosses are cheap. How is that a good thing? Of course, in a startup you can't have everything - but that doesn't change the fact that in startups the employees often share a great deal of the risk (in opportunity cost) and don't get rewa…
Right, I suppose I should have been more candid.
We are in the final stages of the development of the product. So there is no revenue; we're paying market (45-60k) plus options, but we're not ready to just dish that out to anyone.
It's kind of like finding a girlfriend. If you're filthy rich (and its obvious) than the playing field becomes uneven. We want people who are motivated by long-term opportunity, not taking a salary and clock punching from 10-5.
OK you may have a point here, but surely, if this post were to discourage people who are only looking for a salary haven't the "ends justified the means" ?
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#18Granted, this guy's cover letter is not going to win him the job. But "Send us your resume! We'll post it on our web site and make fun of it! And your grammar, even though ours is not completely correct either!" is not going to win this company applicants, either.
Good catch. Perhaps this article should be retitled, "How to Not Show Class when you are Recruiting."
Perhaps, or possibly "How discourage self-entitled leeches from applying to your company".
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe, but he sounds self-entitled. Those are the worst type of people. I don't like either of the attitudes in the post. I would never work for the poster and I would never hire the applicant.
If my potential employer has a problem with money being my motivation, scratch my name from the interview list. IF I really wanted to work for slave wages, there is a McDonalds on every street corner
To be clear: We don't care if money is your motivation, it is ours as well, we simply don't want money to be your ONLY motivation.
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#20I don't think that guy really wanted the job. He's trying to do you a favor by pointing out that you are asking for a lot more than you are offering.