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Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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In the text you shared, you imply that other readers should come to the conclusion that he's a racist because he's against public transit due to fear of crime being imported. But you made no connections as to how his claims of crime import were related to a race component. So it's understandable that readers might not find your "racist" labeling justified based on the facts that you shared. He might be a racist but b…

No, that is explicitly not what I said. I said if you talk to this person even briefly, you will quickly realize the actual basis of his objection is racism. It is not subtle. What is your expectation of me here, to pull out some sort of video proof to convince you, the skeptical hnews reader? Sometimes this place is extremely tiresome. Just go do some googling and you'll realize how common this sentiment is. And it'…

> Read about Robert Moses and why he made bridges too low for buses.

On that suggestion, I just went and read the wikipedia article on Robert Moses. It mentions that buses and commercial vehicles do in fact go under those bridges today, and that the accusations of racism are disputed.

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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Crazy. Suspended due to "the potential to bring drugs and homeless people to Kauaʻi".

Reminds me of how Bob Moses built the bridges of Long Island too low for buses to pass through [0]. Talk about structural racism. [0] https://archive.ph/OTnMP

The wikipedia article on Moses claims buses (and commercial vehicles, which were another alleged target of his architectural decisions) do pass through those bridges to this day.

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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Crazy. Suspended due to "the potential to bring drugs and homeless people to Kauaʻi".

This is a perennial favorite of transportation NIMBYs. Where I live extending the light rail the last little bit over the river to Washington state is a no brainer, but it's been paralyzed by decades of opposition from suburbanites in Vancouver Wa. My friend's dad is/was one of the key activists. He'd stand in planning meetings and no joke scream about how "criminals" were gonna ride the train up, break into someone'…

Yeah, there was an article in Baltimore about stupid people worrying about crime on the light rail in the suburbs. Racism rots the brain. Just put a cop at the train station if you're worried. A better solution to crime would be to ban cars, which any competent criminal is going to use to haul off their goods.

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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I don’t completely follow, this is people living in a Portland suburb lobbying against getting a public transport connection? How is less infrastructure better?

A lot of the time it's a race issue. I live near Atlanta, where white suburbanites have spent 40 years voting to cripple public transportation, because they're afraid black people will use it to come to their neighborhood. That is not an exaggeration. One of my coworkers did a historical study and read town hall transcripts from the last couple decades. People were extremely clear why they were voting down mass trans…

The racist joke I was told as a kid was that MARTA stood for "Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta." I was so young and naive, I said, "Really? Why would they name it that?" Ugh. The racism of anti-transit people is really inescapable.

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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While I agree it's nonsense, I'm curious what would change without harming the personal security of everyone involved? I mean this system has many flaws but no one can steal a plane again and crash it into innocent people right?

That risk is effectively zero now due to locking cabin doors, to the point where actual pilots are the only ones who deliberately crash planes.

The irony being that it's exactly those locking doors that allow suicidal pilots to deliberately crash planes.

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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This is a perennial favorite of transportation NIMBYs. Where I live extending the light rail the last little bit over the river to Washington state is a no brainer, but it's been paralyzed by decades of opposition from suburbanites in Vancouver Wa. My friend's dad is/was one of the key activists. He'd stand in planning meetings and no joke scream about how "criminals" were gonna ride the train up, break into someone'…

In my city you can definitely tell a difference in the demographics that frequent places that have train access vs those without. The malls for example: Malls with train access tend to bring a lot of kids strutting around flexing (as kids are expected to do). This has side effects of petty larceny and shootings. All of the mall shootings are groups of these kids that have beef with each other. It's mostly harmless to…

Not building something because it will allow poorer people to move around our cities more easily is just wrong no matter what the consequences. There are also criminals and kids who strut around and flex from rough areas of town that have cars. Should we get rid of roads that connect those neighborhoods to the rest of the city?

These issues just reveal deep problems we have as a society and the solution we have had so far of trying to avoid it at all costs only making it worse.

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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Superferry was a huge case study for us. We went to Hawaii, interviewed everyone involved, and learned the lessons. We're taking a different approach that focuses on community and environmental considerations first. Look for more exciting news in Hawaii soon!

This is going to be an uphill battle in Hawaii. Hawaii is notoriously difficult to do business in, Hawaiian Airlines has become entrenched in protecting these routes, Southwest has been moderately effective but it's at a significant cost, and mokulele has had some serious negative press over the safety of their aircraft. Part of the super ferry demise wasn't just NIMBYs' but entrenched politics and money.. glad you f…

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Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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> The protesters' concerns were that a ferry of this size could strike and kill whales during its voyages despite this never occurring during the years the faster Seaflite interisland ferries operated. NIMBYs ruin everything, I doubt they were really concerned about the whales.

Read on - what they were really afraid of was the dirty/smelly poors coming onto their precious island. You see the same BS with bike paths through residential neighborhoods. Despite studies showing that bike paths increase property values, residents bitch and moan about safety/crime. They basically figure that poor/non-white people will bike into their neighborhood and rape/pillage/burn everything. So you get a bunc…

> You see the same BS with bike paths through residential neighborhoods.

I'd invite you to take a look at the Springwater Corridor in Portland. It is plausible that ubiquitous bike paths would not have the same problem, but it is difficult to fault someone for taking one look at that disaster and wanting it to come to their own quiet neighborhood.

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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> It's insane to me that the vast majority of inter-island travel in Hawaii (an archipelago where generally each island is visible from the next) is via jet aircraft. Why jets? In the Caribbean, where distances are longer, turboprop aircraft are standard for island hopping and I thought these made more economic sense for short distances.

Passenger load. They do use prop planes on routes with less passengers.

Pretty much, I've done the Seattle-Vancouver hop in a 737 and that's only 130 or so miles.

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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Lots of examples! To pick a few: - Manhattan to the Hamptons - Los Angeles to San Diego or Santa Barbara - Interisland in Hawaii, New Zealand, Japan, Caribbean, Pacific Northwest - The global ferry market, huge in places like the Mediterranean, North Sea, Baltic Sea, English Channel, Southeast Asia. Actually, there are as many ferry passengers every year as there are airline passengers! ~4.5B on both... its a key mod…

Setup Boston to Nantucket…and just print money.

I was thinking this was impractical (the Cape is in the way) but Nantucket is pretty far East so it's not that bad to go around. ~115mi each way, so within range.
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