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Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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Post by tchaffee »

jtsuken wrote: post #138
lastofthemojito wrote: post #63

I was initially skeptical, but seeing Mokulele Airlines (an airline serving Hawaii) flash by on the carousel made me consider that this might have at least some real-world uses. It's insane to me that the vast majority of inter-island travel in Hawaii (an archipelago where generally each island is visible from the next) is via jet aircraft. You have to spend hours (especially if you're checking bags) getting to the a…

To skip TSA nonsense you just need to skip TSA nonsense. Outside of the US airtravel is still relatively similar to rail. You have to be on time, you have to handle the baggage, but you can walk through xray and security within minutes and only need to show the ticket on your phone. An electric wing-in-ground-effect aircraft still looks like an airplane and might still fall under the same regulations as any other air…

This is factually wrong. Being stuck in a long security line for a flight in Europe or S. America is not unusual.

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Post by nonethewiser »

thecopy wrote: post #214
lelanthran wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Despite studies showing that bike paths increase property values, Citation needed. This is an extraordinary claim; you are going to need more than one single study done on a tiny sample with no control variables.

Is it really extraordinary or unbelievable? Easier access to infrastructure which is quiet and environmentally friendly should reasonably not decrease property values? I would definitely be more interested in a property with bike infrastructure, although that is just one tiny sample with no control variables:)

Also brings more foot traffic and possibility for crimes of opportunity and lowers the barrier to trespassing

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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Post by tchaffee »

beefield wrote: post #215
yard2010 wrote: post #208

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While I agree it's nonsense, I'm curious what would change without harming the personal security of everyone involved? I mean this system has many flaws but no one can steal a plane again and crash it into innocent people right?

As someone who carries a 20 cm metal rod through airport security every time and has not seen a single warning light ever popping up because of that, it is quite difficult for me to understand how the airport security is supposed to add safety against anyone who is willing to spend any time working around it - and who is motivated. (For the curious, there is a titanium plate in my body due to an accident)

Why would a plate in your body set off a warning light? It's not a security risk.

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Post by jnsaff2 »

qingcharles wrote: post #79
lastofthemojito wrote: post #63

I was initially skeptical, but seeing Mokulele Airlines (an airline serving Hawaii) flash by on the carousel made me consider that this might have at least some real-world uses. It's insane to me that the vast majority of inter-island travel in Hawaii (an archipelago where generally each island is visible from the next) is via jet aircraft. You have to spend hours (especially if you're checking bags) getting to the a…

Crazy. Suspended due to "the potential to bring drugs and homeless people to Kauaʻi".

Reminds me of how Bob Moses built the bridges of Long Island too low for buses to pass through [0]. Talk about structural racism.

[0] https://archive.ph/OTnMP

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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Post by tchaffee »

noduerme wrote: post #128
KennyBlanken wrote: post #106

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Read on - what they were really afraid of was the dirty/smelly poors coming onto their precious island. You see the same BS with bike paths through residential neighborhoods. Despite studies showing that bike paths increase property values, residents bitch and moan about safety/crime. They basically figure that poor/non-white people will bike into their neighborhood and rape/pillage/burn everything. So you get a bunc…

Really? My street was recently turned into a greenway / bike street, and it's brought me nothing but an endless bike parade of smug white people in silly clothing. Just a couple hours ago, I was having to get my car towed and the tow driver was 3/4 into turning slowly back into the street when two women on bikes zoomed right in front of him, causing him to slam the brakes. One of them then shouted "Thank you!" over h…

Lots of folks on your street are getting around town with zero emissions and you're moaning about that while talking about the troubles of fixing your polluting vehicle? Have you ever paused to think how inconsiderate it is to pollute the air people have to breath? I'll take smug white people in silly clothing over polluters any day.

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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Post by tchaffee »

petre wrote: post #171
KennyBlanken wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read on - what they were really afraid of was the dirty/smelly poors coming onto their precious island. You see the same BS with bike paths through residential neighborhoods. Despite studies showing that bike paths increase property values, residents bitch and moan about safety/crime. They basically figure that poor/non-white people will bike into their neighborhood and rape/pillage/burn everything. So you get a bunc…

Heh, I was just trying to picture Some Puerto Rican Guy on a bike, cycling into rich white neighbourhoods. https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Some_Puerto_Rican_Guy The only criminals on a bike that I'm aware of are bicycle thieves.

How does that work? You steal a bike and ride both home? Wouldn't a van or being on foot be the better approach to stealing bikes?

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Post by ricardobeat »

lastofthemojito wrote: post #63

I was initially skeptical, but seeing Mokulele Airlines (an airline serving Hawaii) flash by on the carousel made me consider that this might have at least some real-world uses. It's insane to me that the vast majority of inter-island travel in Hawaii (an archipelago where generally each island is visible from the next) is via jet aircraft. You have to spend hours (especially if you're checking bags) getting to the a…

The wiki page doesn’t have a section on perceived environmental impact, do you have more info on that?

From the description of the ship they tried to use environmentally-friendly tech (despite it being a bit of a behemoth), but I know nothing about the local ecosystem. I imagined the area would already have heavy boat traffic from cruises and the military.

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Post by wthalheimer »

gaadd33 wrote: post #185
wthalheimer wrote: post #104

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We looked into this! If you want to go regional range, you really need high speed rail (who's trying to sit on a train that goes slower than cars on the highway...) High speed rail is prohibitively expensive. Besides the rail itself, you need to do grade separation from the ground so the rail can be flat, environmental impact studies, and in the US where private property rights are very strong, you might need to pay…

Acela in the NE Corridor exists as does Virgin Trains (post COVID it's operated under the name Brightline) from Miami to Orlando. Only 2 of the 4 you listed haven't come to fruition.

Acela and Virgin Trains are not high speed rail…

Re: Regent – Electric coastal travel

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Post by vanrysss »

slashtom wrote: post #204
wthalheimer wrote: post #82

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Superferry was a huge case study for us. We went to Hawaii, interviewed everyone involved, and learned the lessons. We're taking a different approach that focuses on community and environmental considerations first. Look for more exciting news in Hawaii soon!

This is going to be an uphill battle in Hawaii. Hawaii is notoriously difficult to do business in, Hawaiian Airlines has become entrenched in protecting these routes, Southwest has been moderately effective but it's at a significant cost, and mokulele has had some serious negative press over the safety of their aircraft. Part of the super ferry demise wasn't just NIMBYs' but entrenched politics and money.. glad you f…

I recently flew between Oahu and Molokai. My return flight was delayed seven hours. I literally could have paddled a canoe home faster. Mokulele deserves all the negative press it gets.

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Post by vanrysss »

dmurray wrote: post #201
lastofthemojito wrote: post #63

I was initially skeptical, but seeing Mokulele Airlines (an airline serving Hawaii) flash by on the carousel made me consider that this might have at least some real-world uses. It's insane to me that the vast majority of inter-island travel in Hawaii (an archipelago where generally each island is visible from the next) is via jet aircraft. You have to spend hours (especially if you're checking bags) getting to the a…

> It's insane to me that the vast majority of inter-island travel in Hawaii (an archipelago where generally each island is visible from the next) is via jet aircraft. Why jets? In the Caribbean, where distances are longer, turboprop aircraft are standard for island hopping and I thought these made more economic sense for short distances.

Passenger load. They do use prop planes on routes with less passengers.
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