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Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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Lamenting the unwillingness to pay for trash is a hopeless cause. The cat bites its own tale. Most news outlets I know have deteriorated so much in quality that I would never even think about paying for any of that propaganda. Give me a good, balanced, non-pliticized and honest news site, and I might consider supporting them.

You don’t actually want that or you’d be paying for it already. The problem is that most news doesn’t affect you and the majority that does only affects you in that it excites, scares or entertains you. It wasn’t that news got bad or people got more evil, it’s that the value of information cratered and now it’s not even expensive enough to come with editors.

> The problem is that most news doesn’t affect you.

There is plenty of news that affect me, it just happens to (mostly) not be covered in the news. And when it is it is often propaganda rather than even remotely unbiased reporting.

Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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But you see the chicken and egg problem here. News outlets have deteriorated because they can't make money. If people actually paid for them they might have a chance to hire competent people and do investigative journalism. But now they're being paid mostly by ad revenue and a handful of subscribers. So they have to publish trash to optimize for clicks.

Its even worse. In my country, the government has given a lot of money to media companies, right around covid. That magically made them all comply and report the same government propaganda. However, even non-conspiracy-theory-people have realized what is going on here. After the fact, I believe no sane person would want to give them money, because, you know "the state is already paying em, why should I?"

Here the government gives the media companies money all year every year. And its not even the government's money (from taxes) but my money that I am forced to pay for a contract that I never agreed to or want and can't opt out of.

Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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You don’t actually want that or you’d be paying for it already. The problem is that most news doesn’t affect you and the majority that does only affects you in that it excites, scares or entertains you. It wasn’t that news got bad or people got more evil, it’s that the value of information cratered and now it’s not even expensive enough to come with editors.

> The problem is that most news doesn’t affect you. There is plenty of news that affect me, it just happens to (mostly) not be covered in the news. And when it is it is often propaganda rather than even remotely unbiased reporting.

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Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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Their plan to curtail inflation has always been demand destruction. Which means callous layoffs, unemployment, and misery for the workforce. We are just now seeing the effects, so expect it to get worse from here. We are a few more earnings misses, fumble of the debt ceiling, and another bank collapse away from a depression.

> callous layoffs, unemployment, and misery for the workforce US unemployment is hovering around 50 years lows. Probably better to look at the actual stats rather than listen to the constant doom-peddling that comes from the media. https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

Yeah, when we see headlines about the big tech layoffs it's important to look at just how insane the hiring has been over the last few years. They monopolized much of the talent the last few years.

Is there a stat that tracks time to new job after a layoff? I'm betting most of those people found new positions very quickly.

Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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The truth is, journalism has cratered. However, most are not ready to accept the truth, since they still believe the media are an essential part of democracy.

Good news reporting is an essential part of democracy. We don't have it anymore. Nobody wants to pay for it. We'll see how it goes.

> Nobody wants to pay for it

Spoken on a popular site that routinely uses pirate mirrors to circumvent news site paywalls. :)

Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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post #78

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Lamenting the unwillingness to pay for trash is a hopeless cause. The cat bites its own tale. Most news outlets I know have deteriorated so much in quality that I would never even think about paying for any of that propaganda. Give me a good, balanced, non-pliticized and honest news site, and I might consider supporting them.

You don’t actually want that or you’d be paying for it already. The problem is that most news doesn’t affect you and the majority that does only affects you in that it excites, scares or entertains you. It wasn’t that news got bad or people got more evil, it’s that the value of information cratered and now it’s not even expensive enough to come with editors.

Is it possible we know each other from StackOverflow perhaps? Because I remember a bunch of people on there who think it is productive to start a posting with "You don’t actually want that".

Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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> Vice News used to be great and essentially apolitical. One of the founders founded the proud boys. >They went to interesting, dangerous places and reported what they saw by showing you what they saw. They were rich nepo kids going into places and doing a ton of poverty porn. Seeing the inside of a favela on the eyes of a brooklyn kids whose dad makes pharma patents was edgy in 2000s but boy does it not hold up. > A…

> One of the founders founded the proud boys. That's ad hominem, not a counter argument about Vice's content. > They were rich nepo kids going into places and doing a ton of poverty porn. Seeing the inside of a favela on the eyes of a brooklyn kids whose dad makes pharma patents was edgy in 2000s but boy does it not hold up. Yes, so? This description is good journalism. You're just trying to come up with derogatory t…

It's not ad hominem in the context of discussing bias to point out that a person who founded one biased organization also founded a political advocacy group (aka another by-definion biased organaization), it is describing a pattern.

Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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Sure, you can always find some people struggling. But your statement simply doesn't match reality. Retail sales are growing fast https://nrf.com/media-center/press-releases/nrf-forecasts-20... . Discretionary spending on travel is through the roof. https://www.mastercardservices.com/en/reports-insights/econo...

You seriously want to toss out travel spending as an indicator of how well things are going for the general population? Travel is a luxury, and rich people are not hurting yet. The people at the bottom of the economy ,your average walmart and target shopper, is who is hurting. Also, raw dollars is not a good metric for how much stuff is being bought. Sales in dollars can be way up, but the amount or quantity of goods…

There are always struggling segments of the population, but travel is less of a luxury than it has ever been. I talk to and have gotten to know the people who work at the local stores I frequent, and I've been surprised by the number of them who want to talk about their recent travel.

Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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post #78

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Lamenting the unwillingness to pay for trash is a hopeless cause. The cat bites its own tale. Most news outlets I know have deteriorated so much in quality that I would never even think about paying for any of that propaganda. Give me a good, balanced, non-pliticized and honest news site, and I might consider supporting them.

I am looking for a neutral, down to the earth style newspaper, focused on world news, not only west/USA. I can definitely pay for that!

https://ground.news/

It gives ratings on headlines and it helps to get an overview of the news.

Re: Container shipping has cratered, as ship owners try to avoid unprofitable trips

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Good news reporting is an essential part of democracy. We don't have it anymore. Nobody wants to pay for it. We'll see how it goes.

> Nobody wants to pay for it Spoken on a popular site that routinely uses pirate mirrors to circumvent news site paywalls. :)

The thing is that news has an utilitarian function : we should be able to debate what is going in the world around us. What’s going on in the world is another word for news.

News should be free in a way.

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