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Isolating them from their peers can be just as mentally devastating. I don't think there is a good solution to this.
That isn't isolating them from their peers.
it is guaranteed at least subtle socially isolating them
Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns
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Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns
#52I get it, I agree with it, but I also grew up with unfettered access to the Internet during a period of time when the World Wide Web was growing and maturing and you saw a lot of stuff you shouldn’t have as a kid.
It seems like extreme helicoptering to restrict your children from things like this that are in the world and it’s an easy way out. Hey! All of a sudden you don’t have to parent. Some software can do it for you.
I’d prefer to teach my children right from wrong instead. Not shelter them from it.
It’s super weird.
Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns
#53I get it, I agree with it, but I also grew up with unfettered access to the Internet during a period of time when the World Wide Web was growing and maturing and you saw a lot of stuff you shouldn’t have as a kid. It seems like extreme helicoptering to restrict your children from things like this that are in the world and it’s an easy way out. Hey! All of a sudden you don’t have to parent. Some software can do it for…
Me too. But when it was growing and maturing it was a much nicer place. Now it's full on rotten.
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Don't give your kid a smartphone or laptop without only whitelisting certain sites. If they somehow get a device without permission, it gets donated.
Isolating them from their peers can be just as mentally devastating. I don't think there is a good solution to this.
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What reasonable action could be taken on the parent side? I feel like apps should be regulated to for example, only show up to 20 videos max on tiktok per day to prevent doom scrolling. I don't think preventing kids from accessing social media entirely is viable or reasonable.
I think in the future, we should look into device-level age verification. You scan your Driver's License on your iPhone once; and after that, your iPhone tells the website that you are 16 and over without providing any other information unless the user expressly grants it. This solution would not make everyone happy, but politics is all about tradeoffs . By keeping everything on the device-level, we would hopefully r…
This is way too complicated. You could sell children's iphones that reliably report "user is under 16" and make it an offence to supply an adult phone to a child.
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What reasonable action could be taken on the parent side? I feel like apps should be regulated to for example, only show up to 20 videos max on tiktok per day to prevent doom scrolling. I don't think preventing kids from accessing social media entirely is viable or reasonable.
I think in the future, we should look into device-level age verification. You scan your Driver's License on your iPhone once; and after that, your iPhone tells the website that you are 16 and over without providing any other information unless the user expressly grants it. This solution would not make everyone happy, but politics is all about tradeoffs . By keeping everything on the device-level, we would hopefully r…
Yea! What could go wrong asking the government to record your identity to your technology!? Surely YOUR favorite party will always be in power and this power would never fall into the hands of the bad people.
> remember V-Chip?
Remember it didn’t work and was only pushed for by a bureaucracy that eventually did nothing but make regulation into the TV market and surely some Clinton connected suppliers of the IP very happy?
It had about a 10% usage, tops, according to the people that pushed for it and made money off it's regulatory implementation.
No is the answer whenever someone proposes “the aught to be a law”. There almost always aught’n’t.
Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns
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> You scan your Driver's License on your iPhone once And who's checking that ID? In what form is the record of it being kept, and where? I would not use a device that had this sort of requirement. There's too much surveillance as it is. The solution to this with children is easy -- don't get them a smartphone.
> And who's checking that ID? In what form is the record of it being kept, and where? I would not use a device that had this sort of requirement. There's too much surveillance as it is. I would do it on a state-by-state level. Your phone verifies your age with, say, the state of California one time, and then it's set and California has no idea what you visit or why. And if you don't like this due to hacking risk; rem…
I'm not concerned about a hacking risk, I'm concerned about tracking and surveillance.
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That isn't isolating them from their peers.
it is guaranteed at least subtle socially isolating them
No more so than it's isolating them by giving them a curfew, telling them they can't hang out in certain places, not giving them a car, etc.
That level of "isolation" seems innocuous at worst to me (even though it may seem like the end of the world to the kids).
Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns
#59I work at a fancy private school and partially am have hosted numerous events for parents on kids and social media. We have been banging on this key for easily the past 8 years, with varying levels of emphasis. The response from parents has also been universally consistent: A lot of nodding, and, ultimately, very little action. There has always been a small but consistent group of parents who stand firmly on their de…
> There has always been a small but consistent group of parents who stand firmly on their decision to delay giving their child broad access to social media until later, and the vast, vast majority who can't be bothered to. For the latter group, do you feel like it's always willful ignorance? For example, some parents think you're talking about TikTok, when (as I'm sure you know) it often starts with Roblox/Minecraft…
Every time this topic comes up, many of the responses here are about how it is pointless to try and impose limits on social media (or anything for that matter) on children, as they will inevitably circumvent them or something like that. To me it comes off like mental gymnastics to excuse a failure to actually parent.
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Replace "social media" with "alcohol" or "sexual activity." If you are a child, limits are a very good thing. If you are an adult, take responsibility for the stupidity of your own actions. Also, please don't do ad-hominem. For "boomers flaming antivax conspiracies," there's plenty of blame to go around and more than meets the eye. Our health experts also did crap like this that got people who listened to them killed…
Everyone I know started drinking at like 14/15. Same for sexual activity. We just start when we feel the need, not when we are “allowed”. Do these limits actually do anything? At some point you have to weigh the risks. Adults destroying society is ok, but young people watching make up videos is somehow worse? I think there is a point to restricting social media for adults . They have more to lose and are far, far mor…
> young people watching make up videos is somehow worse
Well, this is a straw man. If you look at any statistic, they are hardly just watching make up videos...