Can't say I'm surprised - london is famously cctv heavy
No, it is CCTV heavy, but most cameras are private, not public and not part of the single network.
UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition
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Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition
#32This kind of thing was always my biggest worry going into Brexit. The country has to reimplement a ton of regulation and you know the government and its various hangers on won’t be able to resist “tweaking” every law and regulation to better favour them. Workers rights, human rights… it’s all up for negotiation now. By people who aren’t listening to you.
But it's clear GDPR isn't working as intended. The compliance costs are absolutely enormous and EU member state national courts are leading to rule virtually every tech product being in noncompliance with it, as it so broad.
It's likely to lead to the quasi-ban of LLMs sooner rather than later in the EU. This is going to be an enormous challenge to the EUs tech industry if UK and US firms can use LLMs but EU companies can't.
While I lean remain; some people seem to have serious blind spots that a _lot_ of EU legislation is poorly thought out and given the slow pace of change extremely hard to revoke once it is in force (cf the ridiculous cookie banners; which were implemented in law in 2002 and _still_ haven't been changed, despite 10+ years of efforts to do so in the EU institutions). It's going to be even worse with the EU Digital Services Act, where being in compliance with GDPR and the DSA is a lawyers dream, as from what I understand it directly contradicts each other.
Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition
#33Writing a law that says it is illegal to do facial recognition with a computer, but okay do use humans to recognise other humans is stupid. The end result is you'll just have sweatshops of people watching CCTV streams clicking matching face images because it's illegal to get a computer to do it automatically.
> The end result is you'll just have sweatshops of people watching CCTV streams clicking matching face images because it's illegal to get a computer to do it automatically.
Good luck explaining how that isn't "data processing".
Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition
#34This kind of thing was always my biggest worry going into Brexit. The country has to reimplement a ton of regulation and you know the government and its various hangers on won’t be able to resist “tweaking” every law and regulation to better favour them. Workers rights, human rights… it’s all up for negotiation now. By people who aren’t listening to you.
the regulation is a joke anyway, so why pretend? same with gdpr and the so called online privacy. it’s all smoke and mirrors with an added serving of mixed anti-americanism and european protectionism. they should remove everything from the books until these things have heft. and if they can’t come up with something serious, why legislate in the first place? just for populism’s sake? (eg UK’s online safety bill)
What you call a joke does work albeit slowly. Most of pages have a 'reject all' button now. It didn't get there in the first iteration, but the effect is nice now. As a bonus, you quickly see who works in bad faith, by how it's implemented.
Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition
#35This kind of thing was always my biggest worry going into Brexit. The country has to reimplement a ton of regulation and you know the government and its various hangers on won’t be able to resist “tweaking” every law and regulation to better favour them. Workers rights, human rights… it’s all up for negotiation now. By people who aren’t listening to you.
But it's clear GDPR isn't working as intended. The compliance costs are absolutely enormous and EU member state national courts are leading to rule virtually every tech product being in noncompliance with it, as it so broad. It's likely to lead to the quasi-ban of LLMs sooner rather than later in the EU. This is going to be an enormous challenge to the EUs tech industry if UK and US firms can use LLMs but EU companie…
> The compliance costs are absolutely enormous and EU member state national courts are leading to rule virtually every tech product being in noncompliance with it, as it so broad.
Isn't that intended?
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#36Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition
#37This kind of thing was always my biggest worry going into Brexit. The country has to reimplement a ton of regulation and you know the government and its various hangers on won’t be able to resist “tweaking” every law and regulation to better favour them. Workers rights, human rights… it’s all up for negotiation now. By people who aren’t listening to you.
But it's clear GDPR isn't working as intended. The compliance costs are absolutely enormous and EU member state national courts are leading to rule virtually every tech product being in noncompliance with it, as it so broad. It's likely to lead to the quasi-ban of LLMs sooner rather than later in the EU. This is going to be an enormous challenge to the EUs tech industry if UK and US firms can use LLMs but EU companie…
> While I lean remain; some people seem to have serious blind spots that a _lot_ of EU legislation is poorly thought
Oh, I'm not blind to it. My calculation is a simple one: looking at where we were and where are now, where would I prefer to be? For me it's not a difficult conclusion.
> This is going to be an enormous challenge to the EUs tech industry if UK and US firms can use LLMs but EU companies can't
Sure, but your argument completely disregards the privacy concerns which is the reason the EU has done what it's done. It's possible for Europe to decide that it's worth the cost in potential business to protect the privacy of its citizens. That's essentially what GDPR decided, after all.
(FWIW I've worked on GDPR implementations, I'm not so convinced it's a failure. It lead to a very meaningful drop in the amount of personal information the company was storing. The compliance costs were not particularly huge ongoing costs, just upfront implementation ones)
Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition
#38This kind of thing was always my biggest worry going into Brexit. The country has to reimplement a ton of regulation and you know the government and its various hangers on won’t be able to resist “tweaking” every law and regulation to better favour them. Workers rights, human rights… it’s all up for negotiation now. By people who aren’t listening to you.
But it's clear GDPR isn't working as intended. The compliance costs are absolutely enormous and EU member state national courts are leading to rule virtually every tech product being in noncompliance with it, as it so broad. It's likely to lead to the quasi-ban of LLMs sooner rather than later in the EU. This is going to be an enormous challenge to the EUs tech industry if UK and US firms can use LLMs but EU companie…
Right, it isn't working. Facebook/Meta was fined a billion today, but still will not respect user's privacy.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK isn't even scrapping the "bendy banana" law https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bendy-bananas-brexit-uk-e...
The EU never banned bananas based on shape. It’s a myth
Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition
#40I want my own private live facial recognition in the form of a social secretary that reminds me the names of people that I have met before. That would be a killer app for AR for me.