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UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by afavour »

EliRivers wrote: post #20
afavour wrote: post #19

This kind of thing was always my biggest worry going into Brexit. The country has to reimplement a ton of regulation and you know the government and its various hangers on won’t be able to resist “tweaking” every law and regulation to better favour them. Workers rights, human rights… it’s all up for negotiation now. By people who aren’t listening to you.

When the UK was in the EU, I was protected from some of the worst excesses of the UK government. The UK didn't leave the EU to make those protections stronger ...

No, no, no, you’ve got it all wrong. You were subject to the tyranny of bureaucrats.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by web3-is-a-scam »

londons_explore wrote: post #16

Writing a law that says it is illegal to do facial recognition with a computer, but okay do use humans to recognise other humans is stupid. The end result is you'll just have sweatshops of people watching CCTV streams clicking matching face images because it's illegal to get a computer to do it automatically.

Think of all the new jobs this will create! (/s if it’s not obvious)

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by lopis »

londons_explore wrote: post #16

Writing a law that says it is illegal to do facial recognition with a computer, but okay do use humans to recognise other humans is stupid. The end result is you'll just have sweatshops of people watching CCTV streams clicking matching face images because it's illegal to get a computer to do it automatically.

You'll never be able to do with people what computer vision systems do today, no matter how many people you hire. We're way past that.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by kmlx »

jklrtx wrote: post #8

Meanwhile, Sunak is celebrating himself with a nauseating propaganda video: https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1660560546465193984 Look how clean and groomed our dear leaders are while they are surveilling the population and ruin the economy. Whatever it takes!

i find that video to be pretty well made. what exactly is the problem here?

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by gpderetta »

afavour wrote: post #21
EliRivers wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the UK was in the EU, I was protected from some of the worst excesses of the UK government. The UK didn't leave the EU to make those protections stronger ...

No, no, no, you’ve got it all wrong. You were subject to the tyranny of bureaucrats .

What have the R̶o̶m̶a̶n̶s̶ EU ever done for us?

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by kmlx »

afavour wrote: post #19

This kind of thing was always my biggest worry going into Brexit. The country has to reimplement a ton of regulation and you know the government and its various hangers on won’t be able to resist “tweaking” every law and regulation to better favour them. Workers rights, human rights… it’s all up for negotiation now. By people who aren’t listening to you.

the regulation is a joke anyway, so why pretend? same with gdpr and the so called online privacy. it’s all smoke and mirrors with an added serving of mixed anti-americanism and european protectionism. they should remove everything from the books until these things have heft. and if they can’t come up with something serious, why legislate in the first place? just for populism’s sake? (eg UK’s online safety bill)

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by dewclin »

jklrtx wrote: post #8

Meanwhile, Sunak is celebrating himself with a nauseating propaganda video: https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1660560546465193984 Look how clean and groomed our dear leaders are while they are surveilling the population and ruin the economy. Whatever it takes!

Returning back to the OT of surveillance and oversight, and as you're making this into a partisan issue, what would Labour do differently?

"Authoritarian" concerns were expressed last time Labour was in government [1], and they're "seriously considering" resurrecting their policy of mandatory id cards if they get in power again [2].

And, before I get smeared as a "Tory"/"Brexiteer", I am not - I'm someone who remembers what happened last time Labour was in power and see neither party offers an alternative to increasing surveillance in the UK.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/apr/24/commen...

[2] https://labourlist.org/2022/11/mandatory-id-card-policy-shou...

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by hkt »

londons_explore wrote: post #16

Writing a law that says it is illegal to do facial recognition with a computer, but okay do use humans to recognise other humans is stupid. The end result is you'll just have sweatshops of people watching CCTV streams clicking matching face images because it's illegal to get a computer to do it automatically.

The end result is that it isn't economical or practical to do it. Which is a resoundingly good thing.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by hkt »

For the elites who backed it - as opposed to the people who voted for it - Brexit was always a project about Americanising the UK. They're the same people forcing mayors on us, the same ones who wanted chlorinated chicken, the same ones who think american style private health insurance is a good way to run a healthcare system, and all the rest.

So I'm not surprised that they think invasive surveillance capitalism is also a good thing.

Re: UK’s GDPR replacement could wipe out oversight of live facial recognition

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Post by ChrisKnott »

dewclin wrote: post #27
jklrtx wrote: post #8

Meanwhile, Sunak is celebrating himself with a nauseating propaganda video: https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1660560546465193984 Look how clean and groomed our dear leaders are while they are surveilling the population and ruin the economy. Whatever it takes!

Returning back to the OT of surveillance and oversight, and as you're making this into a partisan issue, what would Labour do differently? "Authoritarian" concerns were expressed last time Labour was in government [1], and they're "seriously considering" resurrecting their policy of mandatory id cards if they get in power again [2]. And, before I get smeared as a "Tory"/"Brexiteer", I am not - I'm someone who remembe…

Lots of EU countries have ID cards, this is not something enabled by Brexit. I don't really get the dystopian angle to it either. Do countries with ID cards see them as authoritarian?
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