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Re: Big Tech Resumed Hiring Foreign Workers Just Weeks After Layoffs

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Post by krapp » Sun, May 21, 2023, 11:35 PM UTC

confidantlake wrote: post #239

rhaway84773 wrote: post #209

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You do realize that basically 90+% of Americans today are all immigrants right? You do realize that right? Essentially you are stating everyone who loses a job in the U.S. should leave the US. Or alternatively you want to draw a line when the good immigrants are allowed to enter after which are the bad immigrants. And I’m sure that conveniently that line will ensure your family becomes part of the good immigrants.

This is not true. If your parents were immigrants and you were born here you are not an immigrant.

Unless your ancestors were in the Americas before Columbus arrived, you're an immigrant. First generation, tenth generation, a hundred generations from now, it doesn't matter. Your great great grandfather landed at Plymouth Rock? You're not native.

Re: Big Tech Resumed Hiring Foreign Workers Just Weeks After Layoffs

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Post by thewileyone » Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:10 AM UTC

foobiekr wrote: post #161

thatfrenchguy wrote: post #95

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> It’s a perfectly logical (if not humane given current immigration law) position to hold that companies should be required to lay off visa holders first and for there to be a “cooling off” period between layoffs and hiring of visa holders. This is really suboptimal though, what if you have a H1B worker that's a high performer in a key position that would make your company collapse if they left but say, they were bor…

It's such a scam to pretend that H1B workers are, on average, high performers in key positions. That isn't the reality, has not ever been the reality, and will not ever be the reality. H1B is about cost of labor, has always been about cost of labor, and will always be about cost of labor. disclosure: have worked for large h1b heavy shops my entire career, and while there has been the very occasional exception, the bu…

It's not just H1B ... it's higher paying workers vs lower paying potential. I've seen shadow recruiting for replacements WHILE layoffs of existing staff were in progress.

Re: Big Tech Resumed Hiring Foreign Workers Just Weeks After Layoffs

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Post by wyclif » Tue, May 23, 2023, 7:02 AM UTC

Max_Mustermann wrote: post #178

wyclif wrote: post #116

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This is precisely what the parent commenter doesn't understand. He thinks the job of a programmer is all about technical skills. In fact that is only a part of the job. You need to be able to write, speak, and communicate in fluent English to be effective. And most Indian nationals, Peruvians, Columbians, et al cannot rise to that level.

Given the context, it's a bit ironic that you fail to spell "Colombians" correctly . I mostly agree with your assessment though. For most latinos it takes several years working full time in English to get to the level you mention.

That was autocorrect doing its thing; I'm a former English major and I know how to spell "Colombians."

Re: Big Tech Resumed Hiring Foreign Workers Just Weeks After Layoffs

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Post by selimthegrim » Wed, May 24, 2023, 2:30 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #245

UncleMeat wrote: post #242

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If citizenship is citizenship, who the fuck are you to say that us citizens of south asian descent should go to another country? This is just bigotry. Clear as day. I was living in Virginia in 1989. You don’t get to tell me what I value.

I didn’t say that they should live in another country, nor am I telling you what to value. I’m pointing out that by coming to places like Virginia, we dramatically changed them, and it’s entirely reasonable for people to ask whether we want further immigration and further such changes. Maybe you like the changes, but I think they were for the worse, and I bet a lot of people in Virginia agree.

What’s your take on the Slaughterhouse obiter dicta on birthright citizenship?