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Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by smartmic »

unhammer wrote: post #10
jmclnx wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one thing on my list to do. But I am curious about this statement: >shifted to Outlook because I was getting so much html Does that mean GNUs does not handle html email ? I ask because with the standard ew package, I would think it would be able to format some html emals. Right now, I use mutt but under some occasions I need to start firefox to read these emails. Usually from medical companies.

It does handle HTML, but it'll look different from what people reading email in Firefox etc. see. So just like with eww. (Also, Outlook has MS-specific niceties like replying directly to Teams messages from within an email without having to start up Teams, which I assume they made as a workaround for how long it takes to start up Teams and pick the right organisation and wait for it to tell you to log out (since your…

There is always the possibility to open and view a HTML Email in the browser by pressing K H.

Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by ashton314 »

neilv wrote: post #2

Don't forget to try BBDB, which is a great contact manager, much more productive than anything I've used since. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BbdbMode At one point, I had it exporting to the original Palm PDA: https://www.neilvandyke.org/bbdbpalm/ If you later move your email away from Emacs: https://www.neilvandyke.org/bbdb2tbird/

The one problem I had with BBDB is that there isn’t a single shred of decent documentation that I was able to find. I stumbled on EBDB [1], a port of BBDB to the EIEIO framework, which actually has easy to find docs.

[1]: https://github.com/girzel/ebdb

Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by JanisErdmanis »

I used to run mu4e with my gmail accounts, those were fun times. That unfortunately no longer seems to be possible since Gmail, Outlook and others no longer provide SMTP service in the name of two factor authentication. Keeps my blood boiling as now every email provider has its own API.

Anyway, what email providers do people use today? One I found with SMTP support tends to be directed to spambox by Gmail.

Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by clircle »

smartmic wrote: post #5

I switched from (neo)mutt to Gnus and never looked backed. Gnus has a much nicer user experience and the integration into Emacs alone is worth switching. What I particularly like: I can use the native IMAP server-side search with Gnus' own syntax. This means I have never been tempted to look at search/index specialized clients like notmuch or mu4e. https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Sea... EDIT:…

The gnus search syntax from (setq gnus-search-use-parsed-queries t) is great.

Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by taeric »

JanisErdmanis wrote: post #13

I used to run mu4e with my gmail accounts, those were fun times. That unfortunately no longer seems to be possible since Gmail, Outlook and others no longer provide SMTP service in the name of two factor authentication. Keeps my blood boiling as now every email provider has its own API. Anyway, what email providers do people use today? One I found with SMTP support tends to be directed to spambox by Gmail.

I had to stop around the time of 2fa, as well. Hoped there was a way around that by now. (Well, not around, but with.)

Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by eulers_secret »

JanisErdmanis wrote: post #13

I used to run mu4e with my gmail accounts, those were fun times. That unfortunately no longer seems to be possible since Gmail, Outlook and others no longer provide SMTP service in the name of two factor authentication. Keeps my blood boiling as now every email provider has its own API. Anyway, what email providers do people use today? One I found with SMTP support tends to be directed to spambox by Gmail.

I still use mu4e with gmail, offlineimap will work if you make an “app password” in gmail for it.

Sending mail works with that same app password and smpt.gmail.com, I use that to send email from systemd using msmtp as well.

It’s pretty reliable, but if you change your gmail password it revokes your app passwords. Only downtime I had was I simply didn’t know that, easy fix.

Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by galdor »

JanisErdmanis wrote: post #13

I used to run mu4e with my gmail accounts, those were fun times. That unfortunately no longer seems to be possible since Gmail, Outlook and others no longer provide SMTP service in the name of two factor authentication. Keeps my blood boiling as now every email provider has its own API. Anyway, what email providers do people use today? One I found with SMTP support tends to be directed to spambox by Gmail.

I don't know about Outlook and others, but you can still use any client you want, both for IMAP and SMTP access, using application passwords[1]. I have been doing that for years, both for Gmail and Google Workspace, without any issue.

[1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en

Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by glorifiedgluer »

JanisErdmanis wrote: post #13

I used to run mu4e with my gmail accounts, those were fun times. That unfortunately no longer seems to be possible since Gmail, Outlook and others no longer provide SMTP service in the name of two factor authentication. Keeps my blood boiling as now every email provider has its own API. Anyway, what email providers do people use today? One I found with SMTP support tends to be directed to spambox by Gmail.

> Keeps my blood boiling as now every email provider has its own API.

I can relate to this, I'm yet to find a way to connect my $CURRENT_JOB Office 365 to Gnus...

> Anyway, what email providers do people use today?

I personally use mailbox.org and never had a problem with SMTP.

Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by spwhitton »

It's interesting that this user was using notmuch before Gnus. I switched notmuch.el+notmuch to Gnus+notmuch last year, i.e., I kept using notmuch but I switched from notmuch's own Emacs frontend to Gnus's support for notmuch.

It takes Gnus ten minutes to start up even with nativecomp, and hours to do its initial indexing (but you already have to give up that time for notmuch's own indexing). It's unusable without nativecomp.

I switched because I realised that I was hackily reimplementing many Gnus features and ideas on top of notmuch.el in my Emacs init. I had to fix some bugs in Gnus, and help the author of nnselect fix some much harder bugs, over the past nine months. It works well now.

Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client

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Post by wrycoder »

JanisErdmanis wrote: post #13

I used to run mu4e with my gmail accounts, those were fun times. That unfortunately no longer seems to be possible since Gmail, Outlook and others no longer provide SMTP service in the name of two factor authentication. Keeps my blood boiling as now every email provider has its own API. Anyway, what email providers do people use today? One I found with SMTP support tends to be directed to spambox by Gmail.

Fastmail works very well for me - for many years. Never a problem, great support.
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