Trying Gnus as an Email Client
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Trying Gnus as an Email Client
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Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client
#2Don't forget to try BBDB, which is a great contact manager, much more productive than anything I've used since.
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BbdbMode
At one point, I had it exporting to the original Palm PDA: https://www.neilvandyke.org/bbdbpalm/
If you later move your email away from Emacs: https://www.neilvandyke.org/bbdb2tbird/
Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client
#3I started using Gnus back when the ding rewrite was released, primarily for news then for email as well to get away from the hellish Lotus Notes client. The unified experience, with scoring and threading was a real boon. At some point I shifted to Outlook because I was getting so much html and office docs filling my email. I am back to using Gnus for consuming the Linux kernel mailing lists as newsgroups where the plaintext aesthetic and the article scoring really helps.
Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client
#4I had to quit Thunderbird because its search never found the email I was looking for.
But Gnus is really good for email. I think it's gotten a lot of bad press in the Emacs community for being slow and leaky. But the imap backend re-write, async, and native-comp have made Gnus fast enough for my taste.
Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client
#5I switched from (neo)mutt to Gnus and never looked backed.
Gnus has a much nicer user experience and the integration into Emacs alone is worth switching.
What I particularly like: I can use the native IMAP server-side search with Gnus' own syntax. This means I have never been tempted to look at search/index specialized clients like notmuch or mu4e.
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Sea...
EDIT: Oh, what I forgot: also very nice is the Email Based Diary for reminders that appear in the groups overview. Quite unknown and covered by countless other tools, but the solution (and again - integration) is really clever.
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs//manual/html_node/gnus/Em...
Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client
#6I started using Gnus back when the ding rewrite was released, primarily for news then for email as well to get away from the hellish Lotus Notes client. The unified experience, with scoring and threading was a real boon. At some point I shifted to Outlook because I was getting so much html and office docs filling my email. I am back to using Gnus for consuming the Linux kernel mailing lists as newsgroups where the pl…
This is one thing on my list to do. But I am curious about this statement:
>shifted to Outlook because I was getting so much html
Does that mean GNUs does not handle html email ? I ask because with the standard ew package, I would think it would be able to format some html emals.
Right now, I use mutt but under some occasions I need to start firefox to read these emails. Usually from medical companies.
Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client
#7I used it for years until one day it corrupted its own cache and become thoroughly unusable. Manually repairing tens of megabytes of serialised Lisp isn't fun or practical. If you live in Emacs, it's a great tool though.
Sadly, I had to move on to Thunderbird, and lately Outlook. Sad to say it, but email has become an absolute pain to use and text-based email clients are increasingly unusable. At some level, I feel I'm a sell-out. I no longer self-host my own email server, and I no longer use Gnus or mutt. It does feel like the rest of the world has forced us off these high-quality clients as it has consolidated around a small number of providers who deliberately prevent us doing it ourselves or using our own clients without jumping through major hoops like authentication, and this is a big loss.
Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client
#8I used it for years until one day it corrupted its own cache and become thoroughly unusable. Manually repairing tens of megabytes of serialised Lisp isn't fun or practical. If you live in Emacs, it's a great tool though. Sadly, I had to move on to Thunderbird, and lately Outlook. Sad to say it, but email has become an absolute pain to use and text-based email clients are increasingly unusable. At some level, I feel I…
I have the exact same experience. Migrated from mu to thunderbird due to problems with modern email and lately one of the organizations I work for migrated from imap so that thunderbird also has become unusable.
Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client
#9I started using Gnus back when the ding rewrite was released, primarily for news then for email as well to get away from the hellish Lotus Notes client. The unified experience, with scoring and threading was a real boon. At some point I shifted to Outlook because I was getting so much html and office docs filling my email. I am back to using Gnus for consuming the Linux kernel mailing lists as newsgroups where the pl…
This is one thing on my list to do. But I am curious about this statement: >shifted to Outlook because I was getting so much html Does that mean GNUs does not handle html email ? I ask because with the standard ew package, I would think it would be able to format some html emals. Right now, I use mutt but under some occasions I need to start firefox to read these emails. Usually from medical companies.
My recollection is a bit vague, but I reckon it was not so much the html as what outlook was doing to the html.
Re: Trying Gnus as an Email Client
#10I started using Gnus back when the ding rewrite was released, primarily for news then for email as well to get away from the hellish Lotus Notes client. The unified experience, with scoring and threading was a real boon. At some point I shifted to Outlook because I was getting so much html and office docs filling my email. I am back to using Gnus for consuming the Linux kernel mailing lists as newsgroups where the pl…
This is one thing on my list to do. But I am curious about this statement: >shifted to Outlook because I was getting so much html Does that mean GNUs does not handle html email ? I ask because with the standard ew package, I would think it would be able to format some html emals. Right now, I use mutt but under some occasions I need to start firefox to read these emails. Usually from medical companies.
It does handle HTML, but it'll look different from what people reading email in Firefox etc. see. So just like with eww.
(Also, Outlook has MS-specific niceties like replying directly to Teams messages from within an email without having to start up Teams, which I assume they made as a workaround for how long it takes to start up Teams and pick the right organisation and wait for it to tell you to log out (since your account is still connected to that one organisation that long ago invited you for a single meeting and only org admins can remove users) and then hit reload since that sometimes works and then pick the right organisation again and then reply "OK" and then quickly exit Teams before your computer runs out of memory and grinds to a halt.)