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Post by MobiusHorizons »

verdverm wrote: post #180
MobiusHorizons wrote: post #143

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I really hope it's not legal to drive while wearing a consumer AR headset. You would need to guarantee the device can't fail in ways that block important parts of your vision, and also prove that it is not a distraction hazard (which seems impossible)

Depends on the type of AR, passthrough or real vision with overlay like the Hololens

Even for a HoloLens type device, if the device fails in such a way that it’s projecting white across the entire field of view, you may not be able to see through it.

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asdff wrote: post #333
Gigachad wrote: post #265

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I remember the release and all of the reddit and HN comments were to the tune of “this is stupid” “you’ll lose them” “they look dumb” “now I have to buy a cable to connect the two” The idea that you could have two, disconnected pods seems to have been quite bold.

I believe samsung had a similar product out ahead of apple at the time. Just like with the watch.

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Post by verdverm »

MobiusHorizons wrote: post #501
verdverm wrote: post #180

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Depends on the type of AR, passthrough or real vision with overlay like the Hololens

Even for a HoloLens type device, if the device fails in such a way that it’s projecting white across the entire field of view, you may not be able to see through it.

sure, but you can very easily and quickly flip them up

for anything glasses like, you can simply take them off

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Post by tikkun »

zmmmmm wrote: post #127
tikkun wrote: post #45

Here's one view for the device - FaceTime++ If it's a gamechanger for remote working, then I'll buy them for my company and have my remote employees use them If it's a gamechanger for communicating with family overseas, then I might see if I can convince one of my relatives to get one (though the price will be harder to justify for personal use - but not impossible if it's a gamechanger) Both of those are contingent…

The rumors that have come out say that Apple has achieved 1:1 3d video chat where there avatars are almost completely photo realistic. I'm very interested to see this especially. Apparently this is a big reason why the device has to bundle 2 X M2 processors and also limits it to one on one calls. I think it's going to be amazing and significantly shift people's perceptions here with how good it is. They should be abl…

Could you please send a link on the rumors? Big if true!

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Post by dmarcos »

meowtimemania wrote: post #422
dmarcos wrote: post #254

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Yeah. Apple enters when there’s clear product-market and out-executes everybody. For the watch, notice that fitness trackers (Fitbit) were already getting popular.

is there not a clear VR product market? I know lots of people that own oculus headsets

Many bought, few use them. Only a handful of games have significant traction afaik. VR today is just at most a very small niche of gaming.

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Post by zooch »

paul_grisham wrote: post #302
zooch wrote: post #96

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I don't think it's a solution looking for a problem. I'd be willing to put them on at work and see which pins on a piece of hardware do what instead of looking back and forth between a datasheet. Lots of examples exactly like that, especially if the glasses are fed sensor data so the temperature/pressure appears right beside the area it is measuring.

How is this feasible at all? Not only all the tech for the AR device to be light and have decent battery life, but the software you describe would need optical recognition of what you're looking at, then match that to the manual of the object to tell you what the pins do. All on a device with significant size and heat constraints.

For early generations I'd imagine you'd have to plug them in via usb (which would still be fine for my use case I was describing). Processing done on a different device, get some type of AI to summarize datasheets and match it to pins. All of which probably doesn't sound good to you but I'd still prefer it over turning my neck and scrolling back and forth.

But like the parent poster pointed out, I'm now talking about niche industrial uses, not widescale adoption.

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Post by jnsie »

aryc19 wrote: post #455
jnsie wrote: post #298

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Really curious about Nreal Air but would love to try before buying. Have you experienced them? If so, what's your take?

I've used nreal air. The good: - Great form factor - Image quality for screen mirroring is great - Display has good brightness - Decent speakers The bad: - Nebula (AR software that allows projecting multiple screens) has a worse image quality (I see some flickering). It's also buggy (e.g. it doesn't work on latest MacOS) - Slightly heavy. You would start feeling the weight on your ears after wearing it for an hour or…

Really helpful, thank you! Can't tell you how many times I've had this in my amazon cart.

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Post by catchnear4321 »

drdaeman wrote: post #384
catchnear4321 wrote: post #289

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yet another vr headset that is measurably less awful while still not being good is still a massive advancement. apple can afford to iterate, and their high end and business customers can afford to participate in that process. it won’t be siri, but they wouldn’t be rolling it out if they didn’t have something that felt different.

Except that I'm pretty sure it won't work with anything but Apple ecosystem. No chance in hell it would work with existing SteamVR libraries or Oculus Stores. And Apple's domain is currently entirely empty of any VR/AR/XR applications. While I expect Safari to get OpenXR^W WebXR support (IIRC it's still not there, right?), even if the hardware specs will be suporior, it is hard to call it an advancement (something th…

it is no harder to call it an advancement than it is to call it not one, given that it isn’t released yet.

again, this doesn’t have to be a successful device for apple to have made a successful entry. it just needs to do something different.

are you pretty sure it won’t?

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Post by ilaksh »

sf4lifer wrote: post #47

Does anyone on HN actually use VR to workout? That seems to be the killer use case, but I don't know anyone that's getting fit because of VR workouts.

Its not exactly a workout but Eleven Table Tennis on Quest 2 has been my primary exercise for the last several years. My Quest 2 broke a few months ago. I am getting fatter.

I really want to get a new sleek VR/mixed reality device but I can't actually afford to spend $1000 right now let alone $3000.

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