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Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by batista »

va_coder wrote: post #33
pilif wrote: post #13

It seems like the OS is either defaulting to allowing only only App Store applications or at least only (Apple-)signed applications: http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/security.html It's still possible to turn this off, but I have a feeling that we should enjoy our freedom to run GNU grep instead of BSD grep for as long as it lasts.

Will someone from Canonical team up with someone like Samsung to create a kick-ass, no hassle Linux laptop with a decent battery life? I've got money I'm dying to give you!

Apple has a top dog and a few bosses. Who exactly will co-ordinate 1,000 OSS projects to give you a hassle free experience?

There ARE ways to make a kick-ass, no hassle Linux OS, even better than OS X and more open (and still open source).

But all of them involve throwing top dollar into it, starting a few projects from scratch, forking a few existing ones and stoping the bazaar-style, design by committee, approach. You should only rely on upstream bazaar-style approach for the userland (like OS X does) and server backend stuff, not for visible UI, no core components, no libraries.

Canonical, and all other Linux companies, always just wanted to act like integrators, instead of creators. Except maybe in a few select areas.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by jonhendry »

[deleted] wrote: post #66

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It's not really considered offensive in the US. Here it doesn't have the connotations it has in the UK.

It's like "Fanny". In the US, it's an inoffensive synonym for your buttocks. In the UK, it's a woman's vulva, so a bit more risqué.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by j45 »

I hope it doesn't turn out to be Mountain Goat. Lion broke my external displays working properly while in clamshell (closed laptop) mode.

Conveniently, if I connect it to an Apple display, it's magic, but somehow not.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by mike-cardwell »

shadowfiend wrote: post #103
JonnieCache wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Malware writers will just get free ids and sign their malware. Or, the signing key will be stolen, like it always is. I'd wager that blackhats around the world are currently tendering to cartels for this contract as we speak.

Neither of these will work, because (a) the signing key is per-developer and (b) the entire point is that when your malware is found to be signed with key X, key X is revoked and your software no longer runs. That's the purpose of the system...

He's referring to the master key, which will be used to sign the per developer signing keys. If that is stolen, then it will be possible to sign arbitrary signing keys and issue arbitrary revocation certificates.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by ori_b »

krig wrote: post #48
oinksoft wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a scary preview of Apple's vision of desktop computing (which we all anticipated with the App Store being brought over from the iPhone world to the desktop): The safest place to find apps for your Mac is the Mac App Store. That’s because the developers who create them are known to Apple, and the apps are carefully reviewed before they’re accepted in the store. As I've had no reason to upgrade my home PC from…

I hope you realize that Debian and Ubuntu and most of the large distros already have this: Known, vetted packages, signed and trusted, distributed through a central database. Frankly, I think it's a great idea. People in general shouldn't be downloading and executing random binaries on their machines. I think it would be great if the major distros also refused to install unsigned binaries without explicitly being tol…

With Debian and Ubuntu, there is no difficulty installing arbitrary unsigned packages, putting your own binaries on and running them, etc. There is a source that the community recommends, but that's all it is -- a recommendation.

That's not the case with OSX, as far as I can tell.

Re: Apple announces Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion

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Post by moe »

swombat wrote: post #81
ori_b wrote: post #65

" OS X Mountain Lion arrives this summer. With all-new features inspired by iPad, the Mac just keeps getting better and better. " Am I the only person that doesn't want an ipad on the desktop?

"Inspired by" doesn't mean "equal to"... I don't see any evidence that those features turn your mac into an ipad.

Last time they took inspiration from iOS we ended up with "Launchpad", an inverted scroll-wheel, and the god-awful "restart all applications after reboot"-nuisance that cannot be fully disabled.

Thanks but no thanks.

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