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Showing up with private heat is the best way ensure I'll think twice about being helpful.
Private security appearing at your door may be intimidating, but it’s not a raid. Threatening someone with fines or jail time, who took receipt of distributed but embargoed product, i.e. by no stretch of the imagination illegal to possess, is the sort of thing you might want to look into legal options for, though.
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American law enforcement would overwhelmingly "side" with the buyer here, by virtue solely of siding with the status quo. The moment they said "contract," Deputy Notmyjob will hold up a hand and say, "Sounds like a civil matter. Mr. Smith has advised you not to trespass on his property. Small claims office is at 1234 Fuckoff Street downtown. We'll be leaving now, and you will too, unless you'd like to take a trip to…
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It depends. If Dealer's lawyers decided they wanted to go after some transgression which may or may not have occurred, that can cause a lot of difficulty for Buyer. Individual officers are pretty likely to point them to small claims but not if a prosecutor is in the picture.
I've served as a prosecutor both in a state jurisdiction and within the military justice system. I am immensely skeptical that any competent lawyer would want to spend resources on pursuing charges based on a third party's NDA.
To your point, law enforcement would likely side with the buyer here but the buyer isn't necessarily going to be in a position to understand that (in fact, likely the other way).
Sounds like the buyer should have ASKED for the sheriff.... Private police threatening fines and jail time? Let them say that with law enforcement around for any follow up lawsuit. A purchase was made and the wrong product arrived at his door.. the seller had legitimate reason to have the product, but broke a street date... The customer did not ask for unreleased product... Sounds like the dealer is at fault, but not…
He could've closed the door in their faces and there would be nothing they could do about it. The company relied on theatrics and false threats to get back a legitimately purchased product.
Whoever at WotC decided to send them should be fired. It's just a trading card game. Contact the guy through normal means and ask him to return them.
Huh. I didn't realize the Pinkerton's were still a thing. Its interesting to see an example of how they operate nowadays when they aren't able to roll in armed and ready like the good ol' days. That being said, I suppose them threatening to call in the police does that for them.
There was no evidence of wrongdoing on his part. Even if they had evidence that he stole something, a private militia shouldn't be called to enforce this, but a police investigation. Somebody at WotC should be held liable for this. Are there no laws in America against this?
Guy bought item, company sent item. That's it. Company can ask for it back citing an internal misrelease, or not. Guy can ignore, or not. No breach, theft at all.
Quite Literally a non story I feel silly even commenting about. Why did OP share this a month later? Not HN material.
Huh, if Pinkerton thugs showed up at my door, I would have demanded a warrant + actual law enforcement to even start the conversation. It's not like they have any more privileges than regular people. On the other hand, if they showed up with regular employees and pleaded their case to me I would probably help them out. Showing up with private heat is the best way ensure I'll think twice about being helpful.
This. If you want me to be cooperative, set the tone by being cooperative yourself.
Huh, if Pinkerton thugs showed up at my door, I would have demanded a warrant + actual law enforcement to even start the conversation. It's not like they have any more privileges than regular people. On the other hand, if they showed up with regular employees and pleaded their case to me I would probably help them out. Showing up with private heat is the best way ensure I'll think twice about being helpful.
> Showing up with private heat is the best way ensure I'll think twice about being helpful. This. If you want me to be cooperative, set the tone by being cooperative yourself.