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Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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I don't quite understand how this would work physically.

You'll want to be simultaneously using your phone for directions/music/etc., which means that instead of mounting your phone against an air vent or similar just below the windshield...

...you'd need to be mounting this much higher, yet still within arm's reach, so it could see out the windshield but where it would be significantly obstructing your view of the road.

I don't see how that would be safe at all.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are cars made by Toyota and Ford any different? A lot of different technical decisions have been made by different people along the way.

Both are producing same chips, maybe slightly different serial number. Perhaps better comparison would be why Chinese Tesla’s are better than American ones.

Or why airlines are refusing to take deliveries of Boeing planes from a certain factory but not the others. If it's difficult to maintain consistent quality inside a single company, it's no surprise that differences like this can show up in "identical" CPUs fabricated by different companies.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#113

Why don't cars come with these by default yet? I have two backup cameras on a 7 year old entry level Honda but no integrated dashcam.

I'd prefer cars just add standardized mount points with power and maybe data lines. Then I could install different cheap products I selected, or none at all.

Remember when cars have standardized ashtrays?

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#114

Hm, let's see: Do I want to wear out the flash memory in an $800 phone, or get a $150 dash cam? This comment applies to Android phones that wouldn't let this thing write to a micro-SD card, of course.

And the $200 dashcam usually have super capacitor instead of battery for reliability

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

no thanks. pervasive surveillance is bad enough already without the requirement that the surveiled pay for the hardware themselves.

Why is surveillance a requirement? Local recordings would have virtually no downsides unless the intention is to evade responsibility for traffic collisions.

I do actually have a dashcam built into my personal vehicle. I have mixed feelings about it, but overall I think the benefits outweigh the risks.

that said, the risks are not to be taken lightly. even if the recording is only stored locally, it can be seized by authorities or subpoenaed later. you can't guarantee it will only be used to settle minor traffic disputes.

like I said, I'm (mostly) happy to make that decision for myself. but having the government require people to collect evidence against themselves is a hard no from me.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#116
post #91

Hm, let's see: Do I want to wear out the flash memory in an $800 phone, or get a $150 dash cam? This comment applies to Android phones that wouldn't let this thing write to a micro-SD card, of course.

One problem is that virtually all dash cams use the same sensor that kind of sucks. You're usually not able to make out people's license plates.

I installed a new one with the new sony starvis 2 sensor, it can read license plates at night pretty good I would say.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#117

Why don't cars come with these by default yet? I have two backup cameras on a 7 year old entry level Honda but no integrated dashcam.

This is one of my larger personal pet peeves and hills I prefer to die on for no particular reason.

I recently purchased a new car, and it has 23 cameras. 23. I can literally get a 360 degree view of my car on the display, and also directly tap into the rear/front/side cams.

Why the @#$@# is there no port for an NVR, or a built-in NVR at least? Why do I need to deal with running wires through a brand new car, and sticking something ugly to my windshield?

Very frustrating. I know some folks have made mod kits to tap into the equipped cameras for recording, I simply am not that committed to the cause.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#118

I don't quite understand how this would work physically. You'll want to be simultaneously using your phone for directions/music/etc., which means that instead of mounting your phone against an air vent or similar just below the windshield... ...you'd need to be mounting this much higher, yet still within arm's reach, so it could see out the windshield but where it would be significantly obstructing your view of the r…

I guess it would depend on the shape of the dash. In my Jeep, with the windshield so close and the seat already high, this would work fine.

Re: Google will soon let Pixel phones double as dashcams

#120

"a new feature called “Dashcam” that, as the name suggests, records video (and audio, optionally) while you are driving. If your phone is mounted in the right spot, the recording should provide helpful information in the event of an accident or other unexpected situation." A perfect way to collect information about your driving habits and vehicle. Insurance companies, auto sales and maintenance companies, and others…

Dashcams should 100% be required in every car. Too many accidents are a he-said-she-said situation, sometimes without any impartial witnesses.

I read that you get a nontrivial discount on your car insurance in Russia if you have a dashcam. So basically everyone there has one, which is why it seems like all the dashcam videos on the internet take place in Russia.

I think that sort of system makes sense. We shouldn't require dashcam, but any policy which reduces expensive he-said-she-said litigation in our society should be encouraged.

I suspect we'd find a pleasant second-order benefit as well: humans might simply drive better if they know they're being recorded. We know that interactions with the police are much less likely to escalate to the point of violence when both parties are recording each other, and I imagine the same principle could apply to our roads.

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